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Opting out of consumerism. Not that it's legal disobedience, but it's certainly social disobedience that would get the attention of and take power from the corporations who control our politicians. Yes we can't stop buying everything completely, going to a barter system for everything is not feasible. But we can at least stop buying so much crap.
I believe that's called a Boycott. Usually those are targeted. I'd recommend boycotting as many companies as you can whose CEO tickled Trump's anus with a faux golden thimble.
Yep
Modern American economy doesn't give a shit about labor strikes.
But a consumer strike?
Everyone literally cutting out all extraneous purchases and cancelling every subscription except utilities...
That would get the wealthy's attention.
US corporations have been paying real attention to Canadian boycotts of US products. At this point, it has become habituated and will not be reversible.
Oh, I'm not sure how much that will matter. I was shopping today and all that was left was an American brand of spring mix that I have been avoiding for months now because it's American.
Well fuck me sideways, wasn't it suddenly made in Canada?
I also noticed something similar at the hardware store. I researched a product and found exactly what I needed. It was a gutter screw made by a company called Euramax.
When I got to the store the packaging said "Amerimax". So they rebranded their shit in Canada online before their current stock was out, I guess.
Can’t speak for your household, but ours is already there, by necessity. Shit’s gotten too damned expensive. At this point we’re buying only what we actually need with an eye on how to make it last as long as possible. And me and my wife make $140k combined.
Same. Making less but similarly the consumerism has all but died in our young family. Just healthcare and food for the most part.
How do you figure that?
The old ways are being forgotten
yes it does. they went in like hawks when the railroad strike happened to stop it.
they are pretty heavy-handed when big tech workers dissent.
There was a 'single day consumer stop' recently that was just plain silly. That won't even show up on a weekly report, let alone concern even managers.
Also, if they don't know it's due to a standpoint, they will look for every other likely reason available. It needs to be a movement
Target is an interesting case study. Largely self-inflicted, but conservatives remember them having trans bathrooms and liberals remember them taking them away (not that that was the only issue, they have become blatantly racist as well). It's too narrow and too slow, but that's what results when society rejects an institution.
It would be great if we could narrowly focus on a few egregious examples and wreck them, but getting everyone to non-organically agree on who to target (no pun intended) is going to be difficult.
The target needs to be capitalism. Not Walmart, not Target, not Amazon. Just quitting the sheer amount of shit we buy that is not necessary. Reassessing our understanding of the word necessary. And for the things that are truly necessary, buying from companies who don't race to the bottom with the most low-quality instant garbage they want to break so we'll but another one.
That's true, but at the same time, aren't most people already boycotting what they can? I think anyone who feels bad about supporting shitty companies are already avoiding them when they can, and if they can't, well there isn't much more to do until we hit mutual aid networks.
I'm not talking about boycotting shitty companies, though. Just like, boycotting capitalism. To the degree that's even possible. We need food, shelter, and utilities.
But clothes? Repair, swap, thrift.
Entertainment? Cancel streaming services, stop going out to movies. Don't use social media sites that make money by showing you ads. Play cards or board games, read or listen to books from the library. Trade things with friends when you get bored of what you have instead of just buying new stuff. Touch grass.
I'm not saying I do all of this stuff or that it would be easy, but lots of people doing this consistently would make a much bigger difference than boycotting shitty companies piecemeal.
In that case, I was boycotting before it was cool.
You need to extricate yourself from your bubble if you think American's are meaningfully boycotting anything.
Well, that's part of my point. Everyone who stopped eating at Chick Fil A stopped 10+ years ago, everyone else doesn't care. Anyone willing to boycott is already boycotting, and they can't boycott any harder until we have a method of acquiring necessities from somewhere else.
I don't think there's some fraction of people who are ethically driven, and the rest don't care. Everyone sits on multiple spectra for what they care about, and where their thresholds for acting are. Most people are under the pump for cost of living, and that's pretty dominant when you're on the verge of poverty. Get those people a bit more stability, and they'll have more capacity to care about broader ethical ssues..
Right, so what would push people over that threshold now?
Ah! Perfect example as I won't touch Chick Fil A. :)
So yes, those who care and are politically aware are boycotting what they can, but the vast majority of Americans neither care or are aware.
target would like a word
Worked against Bud Light and Cracker Barrel. Not sure how effective it is elsewhere. Maybe Target?