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I remember I used to watch a small YouTuber called I think Black Bolshevik, who was from the Bahamas and who once made an in-depth video showing clips from and analyzing a documentary about food independence or food sovereignty in his country, and the various ingenious techniques that Bahamian farmers were developing or utilizing to increase the country's self-sufficiency in food despite the poor soil and very small amount of arable land. And I really wish I could rewatch that video, because Black Bolshevik apparently deleted his channel and that video hasn't been reposted anywhere. I did eventually manage to find what appears to be a different documentary about farming in the Bahamas, but that one seems to be much more focused on conventional farming techniques.
Anyways, point is that I do think that Norway could and must become a lot more self-sufficient in terms food. As it stands I could see a socialist Norway going the way of the DPRK, which you might be aware is also a highly mountainous country with issues around having little arable land and poor soil, and which suffered greatly from losing access to food imports. For that matter Norway's situation could also be compared to the Faroe Islands, where many store shelves went completely empty last year during a strike which encompassed 10% of the population — and the store shelves going empty was specifically a result of the Faroes' extreme reliance on food imports from Denmark, their colonial masters.
So Norway could learn from the DPRK and from countries like the Bahamas as said when it comes to food self-sufficiency. I think some key points are to demolish unnecessary infrastructure built over what could be arable land, this includes a lot of military and car infrastructure; to do what's possible to improve soil quality; to end terrestrial animal husbandry/agriculture except reindeer, and develop aquaculture beyond fish; and to embrace polyculture and urban agriculture. I don't necessarily have faith that Norway could grow all of its own food at this point, but it could grow Enough of its own food to be able to Mostly withstand a situation like economic isolation.
But I'm not an expert on agriculture, of course. I do if nothing else get the impression that food self-sufficiency is something that a lot of left-wing organizations in Norway focus on to some extent, there's an organization I know of called Landbruksalliansen (lit. The Agricultural Alliance, rebranding from Alliansen Ny Landbrukspolitikk, lit. The Alliance [for a] New Agricultural Policy, abbrev. ANL). Their website is landbruksalliansen.no but be warned that it's not secure.
if you have fresh water and the energy to do basic earthworks like swales and whatnot, one can always configure a landscape to support the people who work it with a balanced diet.
the descriptor of "poor" soils is an artifact of export-based economic thinking, and in my opinion, is a measure of how much capital it would take for someone to move in and go completely ham on a simple colonial/plantation style monocrop production system.
for example, the soils of the amazon are generally described as "poor".
Great addition!
Extremely inefficient use of land for animal fodder is such a huge problem. It's especially frustrating in Norway because a lot of the non-arable land is great for grazing and could contribute to self-sufficiency without occupying the very scarce arable land, but it's more profitable for farmers to use industrial animal food.
Doesn't landbruk also mean agriculture?
...Oh yeah. That was an embarrassing brainfart!