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Border Patrol smashes car window to detain migrant advocate, teenage stepdaughter in Vermont
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Ummm if you are undocumented you probably shouldn't be an immigration advocate. Just a thought.
You’re getting downvoted, but I’m choosing to interpret your comment as a simple pragmatic statement given the current ruling regime, so have an upvote.
It shouldn’t be a problem for a benign, non-violent, community-oriented undocumented immigrant to be an immigration advocate under normal circumstances, but these are not normal circumstances.
they're getting downvoted because their tone is condescending ("just a thought") and because this kind of comment shifts the blame from the oppressive side to the victim. if that at least was good advice, but it's not even that since he's stating something obvious, thus undermining their engagement and activism even more.
I’m interpreting their tone differently than you are, evidently.
Any comment that starts with "Ummmm" is meant to be condescending and bitchy. Hopefully this comment has helped you to learn how to properly interpret tone.
I don't interpret "umm" that way, but I also think I tend to also add more vocal sounds like "hmm" and "ahh" to my comments. Tone is really hard on the Internet.
When it's written? You absolutely should. That's the way it's intended. Every single time.
Any comment that contains "Hopefully this comment has helped you to learn how to properly interpret tone" is meant to be condescending and bitchy.
Exactly. Congratulations you've picked up on my tone. Glad I could help the group.
I'm so glad I could participate in this learning experience. Definitely in my day's top ten moments.
You're doing so well. Couldn't be prouder.
Ty. If you are part of a targeted class it seems foolish to put yourself out there as an advocate for that targeted class. It's not a shock to me that ice shows up for you first. I'd be getting out or staying inside and not leaving.
Hell, I’m a straight white cis dude and I’m thinking of fucking off. One of the reasons I am considering that is because I have family members who are visibly mixed race, and I would potentially serve as a safe harbor for them, or any friends and family who no longer felt safe in the states. Also, I work in an industry that’s being affected by all of our regulatory agencies being disintegrated, so it’s probably going to be a reasonable career move too, in the long term.
If you're not part of a targeted class, it's privilege to be able to choose not to put yourself out there, saving yourself the worry of individual visibility while also feeling no risk of ongoing class/race based oppression.
Unless your country is devolving into a fascist dictatorship and everyone will be carted off to concentration camps sooner or later for political expression.
If anything, this is why allies are so important. It’s the ally’s job to be angry and loud when the victims can’t.
Their comment and peoples reactions really shows a key issue in the U.S.
People choose to attack or shun anyone that has a hint of possibly supporting "the other side" even if a simple reply is just pointing out the facts of the situation and really doesn't show a bias in one direction or the other.
There is probably a majority of people across the U.S. who are sick of politics and choose to ignore the news because of these extremist level hostilities from either direction.
Tldr be nice to Nazis so the proles don't think you're a dick
No it's more like "look both ways before crossing the street." Just because you have the crossing signal doesn't mean a truck isn't going to run the light and mow you down
Yeah, and if your here illegally time to get the fuck out. Are they not paying attention. They could very well end up in El Salvador or some camp. Plus the amount of torture they are probably inflicting on that young girl she will need years of therapy.