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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 308 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Yes, keep making enemies of the billionaires that got this administration into office and spent millions of dollars to do so. I'd very much love that for you.

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 130 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Good thing this isn't a country that came about because a bunch of rich white dudes got tired of being taxed and started a revolution.

[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

That's possibly reframing "no taxation without representation" a bit but I don't entirely disagree with the sentiment.

[–] figjam@midwest.social 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

didn't washington own like the western 2/3 of Pennsylvania?

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

And Ohio. He was by far the wealthiest man in the Colonies during his lifetime.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

So, he could have paid other guys to fight the war and stayed home? Instead of being in the middle of the battles, and going cold and hungry in Valley Forge?

There's a lot of bad things you can say about Washington but enough good to at least make him complicated. He chose to limit his own Presidency, the opposite of our wannabe Führer. for one.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago

Well, his wealth wasn't exactly liquid, it was mostly tied up in wilderness land.

Fortunes in those days weren't in bank accounts, or stocks, or index funds, etc. They tended to be tied up in assets like land, slaves, crops, etc., and cold hard cash/gold, stored in a box somewhere, like under the floor.

[–] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The modern technology of satelites, phones and such werent around back then, so any general wouldn't be an effective one if they werent on the front lines with their soldiers.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes, he chose to join the battle and become a General rather than sit out the war at Monticello. It's not like he was ambitious to become the leader of the new country. He felt a sense of responsibility.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They thought funding Trump would get them representation. They were wrong. Trump cares about no one but himself.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

he was only ever representing putin, and MSB never the billionaires in the us.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

In the most literal sense we have representation, but it sure as hell doesn't seem like it in practice... :(

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Literal only in the terminological sense. We elect “representatives” but they don’t actually represent us in any meaningful way.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

When elections are fraudulent, its the same as no representation. Besides, pretty soon they'll be suspending elections altogether. It doesn't get more "no representation" than that.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The billionaires have thus far been too cheap to amass private armies to directly enforce their own will. Why, when you can lobby Congress for the price of a used Hyundai Sonata to get the Army to do what you want?

The government holds the power of violence and Trump holds the power of the government. The billionaires will be reminded of that if they get out of line. Coincidentally, this is the arrangement of modern Russia.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

they have been too cheap thus far.

I'm pretty sure that Bezos had enough money to bribe moderate chunks of the army.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Personnel is one thing.

Modern warfighting is outrageously expensive. Guided munitions can cost hundreds of thousands each. Armored vehicles cost millions. Combat aircraft, tens of millions. And it continues to cost tons of money just to keep them in a bunker ready to go.

They will balk at the cost of owning/operating even a single Arleigh-Burke destroyer.

There is a reason they're all too happy to keep letting you and me indirectly fund their military aspirations through taxes.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 9 points 9 months ago

this is part of why it's important for everyone to pay attention to the asymmetric warfare being conducted in Ukraine. for one, it's a genocide, don't look away and speak for their liberation just like i hope everyone is speaking up for all colonized peoples, like Mayans, Darfurians, Congolese, Palestinians, and Uyghers. for another the skills demostrated may become necessary in the near future

[–] CitizenBrain@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can have all the expensive equipment you want. They don't have the numbers. When your enemies are all around you and this military historically fucking sucks at combating insurgency, you're going to lose.

The military would be smart to tell this dude to pound sand before they, and a bunch of people die in a new civil war that they can't win against the most armed civilian population on the planet.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 3 points 9 months ago

They will balk at the cost of owning/operating even a single Arleigh-Burke destroyer.

They don't need one. They need a sniper.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

its mostly asymmetrical/cyberwarefare now anyways. russia and china are both are good at this, but not militarily.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

In the article, Amazon already back peddled and said it was just in the idea phase and they never really planned on implementing it.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

He's brought down Tesla (bankrupt in 2 years, MMW), and now Amazon. We shpuld start a betting pool for who-s next. META? Google? Microsoft?

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He’s trying to kill all those US companies.

[–] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

Wouldn't that be wonderful? Those corporations are what helped this "voting" travesty into power.

Corporations don't have peoples' well being in their sights except as target practice.

Power to the people, not corporations.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

That's the thing that was always gonna happen. They were always gonna bring themselves and subsequently society down. It's just the crit multi of Donald Trump a lot of people seemed not prepared for.