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[–] saltinecrackers@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (11 children)

What's everyone using for email in a post Google world?

[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

mailbox.org has been pretty good. you can also sync contacts and calendar using DAVx5 on android. They don't have any official apps. but thunderbird mobile works well.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 11 hours ago

Hey. Been using it for years. It’s great

[–] febra@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

Tutamail. Actually great company values. Company works more like a coop. Diversity and inclusion is part of its message. Encryption is paramount.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 10 points 23 hours ago

Tuta and Mailbox

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 3 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Selfhosting. (But I recognize that that is not an option for everyone.)

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

I've been running my own email for 25 years and wouldn't recommend it to anyone. 😔

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

I always thought that I would just end up in spam or just blocked if I tried self hosting it 😅

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Fair TBH. It is such a critical service to keep working.

But it does feel pretty amazing to free yourself of the whims of a provider 😅 I assume that's why you have not gone back either? ^^

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

For many years it was just that I didn't trust anyone not to hand my data over to someone else, whether that be governments, companies, or (unintentionally) hackers.

Nowadays I would probably trust Proton Mail, since they have pretty good encryption. But as you point out then I would be dependent on a provider.

Currently I mostly have problems when I lose power or when my ISP renumbers. Probably I should just migrate and save myself pain from Google and Microsoft making it hard to send mail to their users (which is most people on the planet).

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 1 points 17 hours ago

Oh shit, yes, hosting at-home and with a non-static IP sounds like hard mode, oof.

I am hosting at a server provider (guess I am dependent on them, but at least it's on their existence, not on a policy-of-the-day), with a static IP. Had no problems with MS/Google, only with T-online, who wanted me to host a website on the domain with clear contact information.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I want to do this. Do you know of any good VPS provider in a privacy-respecting jurisdiction that allows this?

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 2 points 20 hours ago

I'm using Hetzner in Germany. Need to message them to say you want the relevant ports opened (spam protection measures), happens within an hour usually.

I quite like their service, but of course use full disk encryption etc

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Addy.io + Posteo

[–] sunglocto@lemmy.zip -3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 12 points 18 hours ago

I think there is some news about proton CEO

[–] Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

Proton mail is pretty good. And they have a trustworthy VPN service.

Update: I officially rescind my statement. Do not use Proton.

[–] DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are there any alternatives with similar features?

[–] Little8Lost@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Tutanota & fastmail get reccomended often lately (i still need to check them out) Posteo is good too but they have only paid options (1€+)

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

Fuck proton, get off proton.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

Get mullvad if you want a good VPN provider. Get tutamail if you want a good email provider.