this post was submitted on 10 Jan 2025
48 points (96.2% liked)

Chapotraphouse

14178 readers
762 users here now

Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.

No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer

Slop posts go in c/slop. Don't post low-hanging fruit here.

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 

he is the worst regular in all of the treks I have seen (TOS/TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT)

his whole thing is representing White american baby boomer dudes

boring as shit

doesn't belong in space

Torres can do so much better.

I don't believe this shit about being such a hot shot pilot.

I think he was sent by the CIA.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Paris can't be the worst, Neelix exists

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Neelix was annoying because his used car salesman with-a-heart-of-gold personality was completely wasted on the Starfleet crew

The whole point of his character in the first season was to act as a guide thru an unknown region, instead of becoming a boring cook, he should've become the Quark of Voyager, an opportunistic trader and part-time ambassador who would secure the goods but habitually set the b-plot into motion cause he got in over his head trying to acquire 6 months worth of fuel (and a sizable cut for himself) by selling one of the holodecks without the captains' knowledge

[–] glans@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

well they BOTH want Kes, the child. So no points awarded either way.

neelix is corny or whatever but he doesn't represent the eternal supremacy of White Men over space. which paris does.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

After Kes leaves/ascends Neelix starts hanging around Naomi Wildman he's the eternal groomer

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hold on, Tom never showed any romantic interest in Kes

[–] glans@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago

There's an ep where he confides in harry Kim "I'm in love with kes". I think harry Kim is playing his clarinet at the time.

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Janeway didn't go far enough she should have killed Neelix too after killing Tuvix

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tuvok would have deemed it only logical if beaming Tuvix into the heart of a neutron star also meant ridding the ship of Neelix.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As another famous Vulcan once said, "It is logical that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one"

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago
[–] kristina@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i love how in lower decks they have an alternate universe where tuvix was an admiral or something

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I finally watched the last two episodes last night. So good, and so sad to see it go. catgirl-cry

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

Not in my heart and I've heard the comics are neat and a recent one did a choose your own adventure structure with a twist. Batman did that once where it was a riddler story and you had to figure out that all the cyoa results end in death but reading all extra panels you'll notice you never get to on any try in order solves it. If it's thst cool I'm subscribing cause also getting stsr trek comics in the mail seems fun

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

its kinda wild how they would run things like discovery for many seasons and episodes but when they actually have a good show they do it for 4 seasons 10 episodes each which is like fucking nothing

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They both had equal amounts of seasons. I agree with the sentiment tho. Disco was dead mid season 2, no pun intended, but lower decks has LEGS. That show could have just kinda kept going. George Takei even said so after appearing.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

They both had 5 seasons, but Disco got more episodes per season and longer episodes too. Probably double or more the actual runtime.

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, seriously. At least they haven't axed Strange New Worlds yet, but it was painful going back and watching Discovery only to find out that SNW was a spinoff of that dumpster fire. Here's hoping that the new Michelle Yeoh Trek project doesn't turn out to be absolute ass, but I'm not holding my breath. It seems weird to me that this is the first Trek movie since the Abrams reboot movies.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

According to early screeners, Section 31 is not very good

One said it was "painfully stupid"

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

anything to do with section 31 is that way

[–] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When section 31 was introduced they were meant to be like the CIA (bad)

But in our post 9/11 world, they're meant to be like the CIA (good)

I'm going to watch it, because I'm a good little piggy and I appreciate my slop, but I'm not expecting much.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, with its troubled production and the shift from a miniseries to a direct-to-streaming movie, it sounds like an absolute train wreck

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oh no.

Please stop trying to do prestige tv trek. I want a planet of the week again so badly.

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

Lower Decks nailed trek vibe so hard.

[–] glans@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

In general I want more low budget TV.

In specific, trek has been ruined by high budget.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nothing at all against Yeoh but her character was the absolute worst part of Discovery for me so I have negative hope for the thing centered on her.

[–] glans@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago

I did try watching disco, the earlier seasons, 2 or 3 times, but I couldn't get it and/or what I did get I hated. It was a mess and mostly I don't remember it but I do recall that character making some stupid as fuck gay jokes about the mirror universe. They seemed intended to make her seem cool and didn't work. in my mind.

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh, it was just more trash on the trash heap, but at least she was having fun with it. That, I can get behind. But yeah, those first few seasons leaned way too hard on mirror universe shit.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's not just that there's a lot of mirror universe shit, it's that the Rick Berman created space CIA hires mirror universe cannibal super Hitler to Make Hard Choices for them

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

yeah its real liberals allying with fascists moment

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Federation shouldn't be liberal enough to ally with fascists

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It isnt lib enough but the lib writers really love the 'complexities' of allying with fascist girl bosses

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago

i hate prestige tv i hate prestige tv

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago

That's just "Rick Berman creates the regular CIA" though