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Spoken like a true republican.
Democratic administrations are better with the economy than republican administrations in virtually every case for the last 75 years. Plus, don't forget that Clinton not only balanced the budget during his term, he left office with a projected budget surplus that Gee Dubya threw away with his tax cuts for the rich and unfunded wars.
As for crime, crime rates have been steadily dropping for decades and continued to drop under the Biden administration. In fact, violent crime rates are near a 50-year low!
Frankly it's the kind of endorsement that is more helpful. If a moderate Republican retains the rhetoric but otherwise rejects Trump, well that might sway moderate Republican voters. If he declared the entire party was mistaken, well he loses those folks and only appeals to the folks that were already in the Harris column.
A republican saying that the Democrats are still bad, but Trump is uniquely worse and has lead the Republican leadership to lose its way, that might appeal to some people that thought to vote r no matter what, even if they had doubts about Trump.
I'll take that over whatever MAGA is.
MAGA is fascism, full stop. That’s not just my opinion – if you can read this list with honesty and not conclude they’re fascists, you’re lying to yourself:
It’s outright fascism. That is not hyperbole. And fascism is always a suicide cult. It destroys everything it touches, including itself.
I think they've quietly dropped this one, since they don't seem to mind Trump being owned by a Russian dictator, his son-in-law getting two billion dollars from the Saudis, or Trump stealing classified documents and casually leaving them lying around for foreign agents to help themselves to.
I remember Romney saying Russia is our primary adversary during his debate with Obama, and Obama laughing it off as old school.
Oh they let more than that drop. Remember just earlier where they said democrats/government engineered the hurricane, yet at the same time humans cannot affect the climate?
Once he’s back in office, though, this will be one of their main foci again. They’ll go all in on Patriot Act II, barring all foreign entry on the grounds of national security. They basically say that now, just with different words. No more asylum seekers, no more immigrants (which will crash the economy, and they’ll somehow blame that on immigrants, too).
They'll still sell our land to the Chinese.
But they would nationalize that land in a few years. Great money maker. You can resell the land again too.
The man literally said he would start deporting millions on day one.
MAGA is just another level of republican. Like in dragonball, MAGA is nearly the final form, but the final form is fascism.
I forgot about the unironic "hide your power level" Chan shit.
Six million wasn't enough for these people.
I disagree, but only because I equate MAGA and facism. They look exactly the same to me, MAGA just hasn't had the opportunity to exercise their fascist views in full.
Excerpts from a short piece, called "Back to the Wall," by a famous writer; abridged:
He also mentions a "synchronistic putch." The writer is called Allen Ginsberg and this piece was published 1966.
Which is to say, the Overton window has been shifting for a long time and Nazism has never been truly defeated, only forced to hibernate. And certainly not just in the US. At least that's my pessimistic conclusion at this point.
Religious extremism.
That aside (I'm not arguing or disagreeing on that point): he is putting country over party which is something very, very few Republicans are capable of doing and even fewer are actually doing. On that alone, I can throw him some respect.
He also stood up during the insurrection and was very vocal against it
And he is speaking language that will make voting for Harris more palatable to at least some Republicans
This is the biggest thing. If he were to actually tell the full truth here, he'd be less successful in getting his message across to the people who listen to him. Full truth is the ultimate goal, but we're so far from it that for half the country it's an impossibly huge leap to go from where they are now to the truth in one bound.
This is a very good point. That line of my post above was a visceral reaction to the whole both-sides are the same argument he's using, but as you say, whatever it takes to get people to feel okay about vote=ing for Harris is worth it.
You are absolutely correct here.
Polarized / partisan voting is not just a GOP thing.
I didn't see anyone claiming otherwise. Still, I would bet money that polarized/partisan voting is a much bigger issue with Republican voters.
He very specifically mentioned this to be a Republican trait. Also, this is about politicians, not voters.
Meh. I'd happily return to the ideological difference of the 90s / 2000s where maybe some facts don't support beliefs. But we're in a very different ballgame now.
And the fact that he's endorsing Harris instead of just saying don't vote for Trump is commendable. Many of my Republican friends that reject Trump can't stomach voting for Harris. It's apparently a very big bridge to cross for them.
tell them you're sacrificing too by voting for her! make it a team effort.
This is one of those situations when you just nod and take the endorsement.
At least he's never put on a red hat, or in any way spoken in favor of the blond antichrist. That's at least something.
I'll throw in with the other replies. Everything in this comment is political discourse from 2006. Disagreeing with the opposition's policy and at most suggesting that they're dishonest about it.
Right now we're worried about the GOP and their figurehead bringing about one-party rule and loosing the military on their domestic opposition.
I'd want to wind the clock back too, even if it means having to eye roll at conservative rhetoric like this now and then.
It wasn't a projected surplus, it was an actual surplus for his final two years. I suppose you could say it was also a projected surplus, but Bush II and Dick "Reagan Proved Deficits Don't Matter" Cheney took care of that right quick.
You're right, but I think the point they were trying to make was that dubya inherited a surplus.
"Your guilty conscience may force you to vote Democratic, but deep down inside you secretly long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule you like a king!"
I ~~wonder~~ fear how much this could change in the near-future. :(
well if we start legalizing mushrooms and continue with lead free paint and environmentally perserving economies it might continue to drop! (mushrooms are a natural antidepressant people, get on the funky town ride)
I'm not familiar with all his policies, but he's been good on gerrymandering which is my pet issue, and which I think is key to making progress on pretty much every other issue.