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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by kristina@hexbear.net to c/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns@hexbear.net

Various thoughts:

  • Around 20 people weren't properly covered by the gender categories, obviously we're trying to be as inclusive as possible and a different approach will be tried next time

  • There were about 600 respondents, which gives us a accurate sampling of the active userbase. If you multiply any number by 3, you'll get a fairly accurate representation of the full userbase each week. This means there are around 800-900 people who don't identify fully as cis each week on this site.

  • Nearly 300 trans/gender diverse/questioning people unanimously agree that hexbear is an inclusive space

  • There was so much data on gender that I was really struggling to find a way to convey the data that wasnt a pie chart, graph, or an incomprehensible kalaeidoscope. If you have an idea on how to beautify the data, you can download the raw data here: https://pad.artemislena.eu/file/#/2/file/xzy4pck8on+oZp9yGRUIezR+/ - I further anonymized this data by removing time of response and any specific comments, I don't think it would be easy for anyone to figure out who is who.

  • There were a couple of text responses that really needed further elaboration, I noted hexbear's rules next to these comments

  • I'll probably be doing a demographics survey sometime in the future, including basic fairly anonymous stuff like "what region were you born in" "where do the languages you speak originate" "would you describe yourself as a POC" "what age range are you in".

  • The percentage of people answering they were cisgender increased by 8% than the previous survey. This could be for a myriad of reasons, such as cis people being afraid trans people will hunt them down in the public thread and assassinate them. Anonymity may have made them feel safer to respond. Regardless, way more people responded this time, which signifies that people felt safer responding to the cryptpad or it was easier to do. The leading question was a bit more inclusive than last time, but I think I'll include both questions (are you transgender / gender diverse and are you cisgender) to see how people respond.

  • We have a lot of people that aren't binary trans on this site.

  • Some of the questions were pretty funky and we got a lot of fuzzy responses on them as a result. In particular "After you realized you were trans/gender diverse, how long did it take for you to begin to act on it?" and "At what age did you begin transition?" caused a lot of friction, I think I will ask more vague questions in the future that lead to a path of more specific questions to capture better data, and to save people time. Questions like "Do you feel your gender transition had a defined starting point?" and some further ones.

  • Around 20 people each week on this site are cis she/hers, which is very low and roughly the same as last time. I feel like if hexbear ever starts hosting other federated stuff (like a federated tiktok or something) and can hook into it natively with lemmy, we'd see a better ratio.

  • I tried to be very sure any data with >2 people on it was clearly legible, I think some people might find it fun that there are others with their same fairly specific classifications per this survey lurking around on the site.

  • Overall I feel like the survey was a success despite some bumps.

  • You can find the other surveys/links here: https://hexbear.net/post/3016455

  • I made these graphs on company time bridget-pride-stay-mad

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[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 76 points 1 week ago

"Very male-dominated" in a context where more than half of the userbase on the site is transfem is pretty yikes tbh. Yes, i know, you were talking about reddit, but still, it just feels weird to argue like that. Especially when reddit has a lot more cis women using the site than hexbear.

There is something on here that actively repels cis women, and i gotta be honest here, it's probably you guys. Dudes on hexbear have a serious misogyny problem, i have never seen a thread about relationship issues etc. that wasn't full of incel shit, the dunks always get more vicious when they're directed at women, i honestly wouldn't spend any time here if the site wasn't at least good at banning transphobes. We need similar purges for misogynists, which, btw, is something that has been called for over and over again in the trans mega.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Very male-dominated" in a context where more than half of the userbase on the site is transfem is pretty yikes tbh

Yeah I can see how I phrased that poorly, sorry about that.

Especially when reddit has a lot more cis women using the site than hexbear.

I think reddit partially benefits from scale. Initially it was for cishet male techbros, but eventually it reached critical mass to the point where it has kind of become a universal forum and source of knowledge, especially for a variety of hobbies. Anecdotal and small sample size, but FWIW I have never met a cis woman who listened to chapo, and during the API blackouts, lemmy.world emerged as the "default" platform on the fediverse so we were less likely to get new cis female users from reddit during that period. Tbh I have no idea where new users come from these days, though, other than lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.

We need similar purges for misogynists, which, btw, is something that has been called for over and over again in the trans mega.

I'm not sure how such a purge could be done. As kristina noted in the image, overt misogyny is already a bannable offense, and I doubt the mods would catch out a lot of people complaining about "free speech" like happened during the purges of transphobes. I'm guessing there are maybe some ideas in the trans mega?

[-] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

I'm not sure how such a purge could be done. As kristina noted in the image, overt misogyny is already a bannable offense, and I doubt the mods would catch out a lot of people complaining about "free speech" like happened during the purges of transphobes. I'm guessing there are maybe some ideas in the trans mega?

I have some ideas, but people wouldn’t like them

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago
[-] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

It mostly involves banning he/hims

[-] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

based and true

I don't want to see trans men and enbies who use he/him getting caught in the crossfire.

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

the simple and effective solution would be to ban all the he/hims posting horrible bro shit in that "i got my feelings hurt so i threw a live hand grenade into a woman's life" thread and all threads like it for the past few months

Wouldn't be the first time we retroactively purged people...

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

continue missing them, your life will be marginally better for it.

[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago
[-] Seasonal_Peace@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

Honestly, if it would improve Hexbear, I’d be fine with just reading and not voting or commenting anymore.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

no-choice we have no choice but to abandon cis men

[-] CantaloupeAss@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

I have never met a cis woman who listened to Chapo

Furthermore, every cis woman who has heard of Chapo seems to be reviled by it in my experience

[-] the_itsb@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

FWIW I have never met a cis woman who listened to chapo

hi 🙋

I don't listen anymore, but I used to be subbed to the Patreon back during Bernie's first run and for a few years after

then I got broker and sadder and Chapo wasn't helping that situation at all, but I had found /r/cth before that and hung around there until the sub was banned

I missed the lifeboats when the sub was banned, so finding Hexbear after the API thing brought me to lemmy was pretty magical

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

Haha, well I stand corrected then. I wonder if the old /r/cth had any similar gender identity polls? I kinda doubt it, and it's all gone now anyways.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago

100% agree on the posts about relationships/dating. We really gotta do better on that.

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 36 points 1 week ago

Sounds like we should get on with that purge, then. The previous purges have only made Hexbear a more pleasant place.

[-] gueybana@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago

i have never seen a thread about relationship issues etc. that wasn't full of incel shit,

What do you mean by incel shit?

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