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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by Luna@hexbear.net to c/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns@hexbear.net

When I decided to host the mega again a bit ago, I had no idea what to make it about (of course). So it fell between two topics: a post on the importance of sleep, or a post on just how much I love Fire Emblem: The Sacred Echoes. Well, I felt like the importance of sleep was well-known, and could always wait for the next time I host a mega. I wanted to make sure I hit the Sacred Echoes iron while it's hot, because I've almost finished my play through at this point, and it might genuinely be one of the best games I have ever played.

Sacred Echoes feels so polished, considering it's a fan-made romhack of Sacred Stones, with the goal of bringing the 3DS game, Shadows of Valentia (SoV), to the GBA. Everything about the game aesthetically is very well-done, from the portraits, to the battle sprites, and literally anything else that could be thought of about a game. This includes new character writing, which helps the game in areas where Shadows of Valentia was a little, well, off. That's what I want to go over first, and although I've made a post before, I had only played a little bit of the game. Being at the end, I've noticed more things, and grown to appreciate this game even more than I already did.

Let's start off with the relevant (and interesting) bits: Sacred Echoes actually does a really good job at representing a variety of backgrounds, while also being diverse in a way that doesn't feel like it's simply to have a token character. This game doesn't suffer from the cracker curse, for example. Although most of the characters are white, there is more than one person of color (congratulations) . In terms of LGBTQ+ representation, it's even better. There are many gay/lesbian characters, whose sexuality actually plays a role in the plot and how they interact with others. There's also an aroace character, Lukas, who goes through a whole arc of self-discovery in his support conversations (support Python). It's good stuff, and not things I would normally expect from a Fire Emblem game. I hesitate to bring up the (possibly) only trans character in the game, Jesse. HOLD ON, NO HESITATION AT ALL! I just decided to do more research, and I wasn't just projecting. He is 100% trans, and it's in supports, and it's relevant to his plot and backstory, so it's just like the rest of them, thank goodness, I was worried he was a token. So yeah, support Clive and Jesse. Good stuff, and good luck getting to the end of the game so they can actually meet, one fights for Alm and the other for Celica...

This is Jesse

Here's some dialogue between Clive and Jesse, in the context of a will:

Clive: Only the following will be yours - your mother's wardrobe, her jewelry box, and all corresponding contents.

Jesse: Urgh. Even from halfway in the grave he's trying to tell me what to wear. So yeah, he's still the same tyrant he always was. Hasn't changed a bit.

In terms of character background, it's more diverse than one would think, and it addresses the issue of feudal class. Not all of the characters are nobles, and one of the main characters is a commoner from a random village. The plot regularly deals with the fact that nobles and commoners do not get along. However, it does not try to redeem most nobles. If they aren't proving themselves with their actions, they're probably shitty. Even if they are supposedly "one of the good ones", there's usually some underlying prejudice that comes out when you might not expect it. I love it so much, and I am extremely impressed that the plot doesn't try to redeem nobility as a whole, but rather allows the noble characters within the cast to have character development that feels less like justification and more like re-education.

Pictured is the class traitor Lukas absolutely destroying Fernand

For other details about the story, I'll link my original post. I don't want to drag this on too long, and I mention most of the improvements there. It also includes where to find the patch for the game, and how to play the game for yourself. If you enjoy SRPGs, or are new to the genre, I recommend this game. It has an easy mode for the newbies, and hard mode for those of us who hate ourselves (/s), and a normal mode for everything in-between niko-happy

The Echoes cast is amazing, and I love how they interact with each other and the world. Each character stands out, and they feel unique in their relationships with the other characters. Even characters that suffer in SoV, like Faye and the Masked Knight (has a name but it's spoilers), benefit from the Sacred Echoes writing, making them actually enjoyable characters. The villains of the game are also great. I don't want to go too deep, because I don't want to spoil too much, but they aren't just pure evil, and for that I applaud the SoV writers. Berkut is probably the highlight of the game, being the heir to the throne of the empire. I am once again asking you to play the game, because IT IS SO GREAT, and I would not have expected these good of villains to pair with Alm and Celica, as well as their armies.

Pictured is the Masked Knight being a gay little guy. The other guy (Saber) is threatening his life...

Everything about the game design is also amazing. It's GBA Fire Emblem, so the animations are peak and the pixel art is stellar. The maps are improved from the original SoV maps, and they are definetly much better, and much less repetitive. Classes in the game are fun in how they work, each character being able to promote 2-3 times. Mages also work really uniquely and well in this game, with spells costing HP to cast. They learn spells as they level up, rather than by purchasing tomes, which makes for (in my opinion), better gameplay. Sacred Echoes also adds the GBA weapon and magic triangles!

All in all, Sacred Echoes is a great game, and even if you never ending up playing it, you now know of its existence. It stands out as a great romhack, as well as a great Fire Emblem game, AND it has the gay. Can it really get better than that?

If you want my original (and more in-depth) analysis, check out my original post. It's mostly about what Sacred Echoes improves upon the original Shadows of Valentia.

Hope you enjoyed my little nerd-out session, and have a good week everyone! niko-dance

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[-] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

i dont have answers for you, but...

I romanticize the concept of a check-in, someone seeing you not doing well and sorta asking about it.

I 100% agree. I want to check in on My People. I suspect the actual frequency is up for debate, some friends I check in every week or two, some I want to multiple times a day lol. (I don't literally see this as romantic, but I do really feel strongly about it)

Maybe it's an autism thing, I feel Absolute Maximum emotions about people I care about and become deeply invested in their happiness (I have learned to hide this and to try not to get too close to people to cope, as it is usually misinterpreted as sexual interest and I can really overextend myself emotionally if I'm not careful).

Probably overthinking. Or is everyone else underthinking? 🧐

I have never once asked myself this question, but it really does fit lol now that you mention it, I do actually think lots of people underthink about the metanormative assumptions we have about relationships (of all kinds) and what they should look like.

[-] Wendy_Pleakley@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

See, it makes complete sense to me to invest emotionally. It's actually more confusing to me that being eager and invested can be off-putting. If someone were passionate towards me, I would feel compelled to respond. Idk.

I don't know if My People in school realized that they were My People, and maybe found it weird that I was texting frequently. I thought I was laying groundwork for a back-and-forth dialogue but I may have just been annoying them.

It's like people don't realize that they're lifelong friends or that they do things like wine tours or hikes in the exact same groups. They don't realize that they have these impenetrable friend groups with lore and history. And I'm like, please can I have that

[-] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I kinda agree. Ive internalised a lot of rules over time to try and hide me true nature in this regard, I dont really understand why people used to find me suffocating. My rules are uh not the actual rules that NTs use, for sure, they are guesses I was making when I was like 9 that I still hold on to to protect myself.

I think maybe our goal should be to find people that we have roughly equal levels of feelings about, which for me has historically been really hard... Especially since its not romantic/sexual for me usually when I feel this way. A lot of that metanormative script is about "saving" your most intimate self for your partner, which isn't something I believe in.

It's like people don't realize that they're lifelong friends or that they do things like wine tours or hikes in the exact same groups. They don't realize that they have these impenetrable friend groups with lore and history. And I'm like, please can I have that

Ive only had this feeling with a few people throughout my life, and it fluctuates. As I change, relationships change with me, and the amount of closeness I can feel with some can change. For instance, one of my few IRL friends is an ex of mine from 15 years ago, we've been in touch off and on, but I wouldn't say we're close anymore.

The searching is the hardest part.

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