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iran can't keep doing this to me, they've gotta respond soon, right? I'm gonna run out of analysis about countries soon, oh god


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[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 69 points 4 months ago

reporting in from twitter: ton of fighting over the dnc protests going on there, opinions ranging from them being "useless fed-work" to "keeping protests inclusive for everyone". curious what newsmegaheads think about the protests. me? more just depressed than anything, we american communists have been fighting about this shit for decades and still haven't figured it out? points to an extreme lack of knowledge being passed down from older marxists to newer marxists. maybe we need to establish a neutral marxist academy or something idk lol

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 59 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Protesting is most effective as something more akin to a military parade of labor. It's what you do when you have done all of the other organizing and power building to be an actual threat and you want to show everyone else that you are to be taken seriously. They should be used to threaten an action, not be the action in and of itself.

EDIT: Roderic Day actually had a good tweet thread today based off the follow thread I will condense below:

::: spoiler summary

The protest as we know it is a kind of zombie tactic. The Red Scare and Cold War destruction of the Left created a knowledge gap, and activists who emerged afterward could only recreate the appearance of organizing without the content. We've been marching and losing ever since.

In many other countries they still use the word "demonstration," not "protest" because a march or rally is supposed to demonstrate that the people are organized and willing to take action (typically strike, but also riot or take up arms) to get what they want.

The implied threat is the whole point, it's what gives the protest power. Politicians or bosses who think the threat is real may give in to demands to avoid greater disruption. But if they know there's no threat they can and do simply ignore it and let the cops clear the streets.

Some might suggest that a protest is demonstrating anger and the threat is to lose voters, but Democrats know that's an empty threat after so many cycles of "vote blue no matter who."

If the point is to create so much disruption that it's more costly to ignore or fight you than it is to meet your demands-which can actually be effective!-then protests at expected places and times, against expected targets, and that quickly fall to police aren't strategic.

If you want to see tactics that work look to the labor movement. The labor movement has been the strongest continuously organized force of working people in the US, which means it has been able to preserve much of the knowledge that the Left otherwise lost.

Whether labor organizing is your priority or not, check out union organizing trainings that are being offered by many unions. There are concrete skills that can deliver measurable results. We don't have to be sloppy and base our plans on hopes and prayers.

Labor movement skills like structure tests, power analysis, escalation plans, and even just how to talk to someone you don't know about organizing are all skills that are regularly taught in union trainings. Don't let the protest treadmill grind you down, organize!

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 4 months ago

yeah there was a twitter thread where someone made the point that a lot of time in other countries it's not a "protest" but a "demonstration", as in they're demonstrating their will and resolve to strike or even take up arms

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 27 points 4 months ago

I actually just added that into my comment lol. I have talked here before about how protests should be like military parades, but I thought the point the account added about how it should be threatening action instead of being the action was very poignant.

Something I have been thinking about today is organizing UAW members in Michigan to put pressure Shawn Fain for endorsing Kamala and speaking at the DNC without saying a single fucking word about Palestine.

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

ah yeah the roderic day thread is how I got alerted to all the infighting, I went looking around the other communist accounts I follow when I saw that and that's when I found out everyone was fighting each other about these protests lol. I try not to mention roderic day after the couple of huge hate threads here on hexbear lol (also some freak accused me of being a roderic day sockpuppet which was annoying)

[-] miz@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I post his work a bunch because I think it's good and I don't seem to get any crap for it... don't let a couple stray shots get you too jumpy

[-] commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago

I've definitely had it said to me multiple times, even in private messages. He's definitely controversial in some circles here for some reason.

[-] newmou@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

What’s the rub people seem to have? I know nothing about him

[-] commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

My assumption: He's super irreverent when he disagrees. He states his position as fact and challenges others to present critiques to his works at that level. It's arrogant to do when your work is worthless, and people have little idea of what to do when someone's work is valuable AND they take the position associated with that arrogance. It seems to me that he is just taking himself and his positions with the sincerity and seriousness needed if we ever want to apply this to truly make a worthwhile communist party and movement. We're just so used to everyone accepting differences of opinion without trying to work towards better positions through critique. He places his work in front of people who have a different position with a claim like "I think your position is wrong and wrote about it here," and tries to get people to engage by reading the article and then responding. People hate to be told to read an article instead of a short tweet

What was literally said in DMs: He decides his position and finds a way to rationalize it afterwards instead of the other way. Also he starts beef with leftists unnecessarily.

As a response to that I asked for an example because I hadn't noticed this trend of rationalization. I was called a fanboy and puppet and debatebro for it. To be fair, I also started out saying that their critique seemed to fail on its own merits because they also baselessly (with no example or reference to his work) argued that he lacked any basis for his positions and that I won't take their critique seriously without seeing a reference to a case. That wasn't the nicest way to start the convo. Still think I was right though, based on the avoidance that came afterwards. That person just never read a single article on redsails.

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 4 months ago

i mean i just posted the masses rebels and elites essay at someone the other day, it's more so if I have to mention his name like saying im linking to a twitter thread by him or something. but yeah i should just block anyone who's annoying about him ur right

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

I think technically I saw it because Q. Anthony Ali retweeted it, but I've more or less held these views about protest for a while. I do support the protests at the DNC and the fact that they didn't let a Palestinian American speak is proof enough that there's no point in polite protest. I don't think we should be yelling at anyone there for anything that happens at the protest, but I think the left as a whole needs to take a step back and see that this isn't working the way it should, and it because we aren't doing it the way we should.

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 4 months ago

i mean i do think these people who are yelling at the dnc protestors are trying to do that. I'm sympathetic that maybe being so aggressive to them is harmful to actually convincing anyone but I'll say I really have come to agree with Day more and more that we need to stop giving people passes for being "beautiful souls" who have their hearts in the right place but ultimately damage the movement with their actions

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Instead of worrying about who to give passes to, we should take a bias towards action and start working on organizing. I agree that these protests aren't nearly as effective as they could be. Hopping on to Twitter to spend all day calling them stupid is just a derivative of the same action being critiqued, though.

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 months ago

i disagree. I still think our theoretical understanding among the american "left" is still extremely poor and we need to rectify that before we put the bias towards action. the bias towards action has been what we've been trying since at least the iraq war protests, no?

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You aren't rectifying anything. You set a new path by doing, not posting.

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[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 40 points 4 months ago

I don't think the protests will accomplish much in the end. Protests in the US largely serve as networking opportunities for various groups. This isn't a totally bad thing (someone who doesn't know what org to join can always go to a protest and see which org they vibe with the best).

The problem for protests in the US is that:

  1. They are not very militant.

  2. They do not have broad support.

You can see how pigs feel about protests. They actually don't hate protests. In fact, they absolutely love that shit because they get overtime pay on top of beating the shit out of some protestors.

The only exception is the George Floyd uprising. The protests then were far more militant and had far more broad support. Remember, the majority of USians polled actually though that precinct deserved to be burned to the ground. That's when the pigs started quitting because that overtime pay was no longer worth the bullshit they had to face. And I'm not talking about most of the George Floyd uprising which was neutered by effective counterinsurgency from the Democrats. I'm talking about the earlier stages when they burned that police precinct to the ground. I remember seeing footage on Day 3 of someone opening fire on pigmobiles as in someone took out their pistol and opened fire on pigmobiles passing by. That was how militant the protests were. Before the Democrats completely doused the flames, people were burning police precincts and were already started to inch towards taking up arms.

Now the George Floyd uprising in the end failed to accomplish any of its political aims. The proliferation of Cop City and increase in police funding are a testament to its failure. But my question is if an uprising as militant and with as broad support as the George Floyd uprising failed in its political aims, what makes you think these protests will do anything?

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 4 months ago

I don't think these protests will do anything. If I'm being 100% fair to PSL and FRSO types, it seems to be more like these protests are meant to build up their bases of support more. But like... is there any evidence this will work? that's my hesitation anyways

[-] SaniFlush@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

I’m still convinced that actual change will only come from a coalition of American minorities, led only by minorities. The self-declared whites are too complacent/complicit.

[-] newmou@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago

In the time I was there, one speaker did harp really hard on the path forward being to vote except not for democrats or republicans. That 1/3 of people who didn’t vote could be galvanized to vote for some unidentified third party candidate provided that we all table, organize, talk to neighbors, etc. That certainly gave me pause. The other speakers were great though, especially this Jewish leader who threw absolute banger after banger about the US military complex driving both parities to support genocide because its profitable

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 4 months ago

I actually don't hate psl for running a presidential campaign (i assume that's who the speaker is referring to lol) but to bring it up at the protest does seem misguided to me to say the least lol. glad to hear that the protest was kept firmly anti democrat at the very least

[-] newmou@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

I don’t think this person was referring to the psl at all to be honest. I think I would have picked up on that. It was honestly too vague for that

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 4 months ago

that's kind of surprising, I've even seen a couple trot groups insisting on voting for PSL as critical support lol. I'm wondering what they were referring to then?

[-] newmou@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago

Yeah idk, there were definitely trots out at the protest. It seemed almost like a misguided radlib speaking, it was weird

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 4 months ago

the amerikkkan mind is an enigma to all so who knows really...

[-] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago

maybe we need to establish a neutral marxist academy or something idk lol

The People's Forum in NYC. They have a lot of great educational courses

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 4 months ago

hm never heard of them, glad to see someone is out there trying to put in that work. Do you have any good reviews of them? the donation drive to cuba at the top of the page makes me feel better about them at the very least lol

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[-] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

oh no don't approach the fence! democrats cheering at our passivity and cowardice is actually helping our cause!

[-] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

There's some more discussion here if you want to take a look: https://hexbear.net/post/3280630

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