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Image is a snapshot taken from the recent Hezbollah video "Our Mountains, Our Treasures", showcasing their extensive underground fortifications, supply lines, and weaponry.


iran can't keep doing this to me, they've gotta respond soon, right? I'm gonna run out of analysis about countries soon, oh god


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https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
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[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

I think technically I saw it because Q. Anthony Ali retweeted it, but I've more or less held these views about protest for a while. I do support the protests at the DNC and the fact that they didn't let a Palestinian American speak is proof enough that there's no point in polite protest. I don't think we should be yelling at anyone there for anything that happens at the protest, but I think the left as a whole needs to take a step back and see that this isn't working the way it should, and it because we aren't doing it the way we should.

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 4 months ago

i mean i do think these people who are yelling at the dnc protestors are trying to do that. I'm sympathetic that maybe being so aggressive to them is harmful to actually convincing anyone but I'll say I really have come to agree with Day more and more that we need to stop giving people passes for being "beautiful souls" who have their hearts in the right place but ultimately damage the movement with their actions

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Instead of worrying about who to give passes to, we should take a bias towards action and start working on organizing. I agree that these protests aren't nearly as effective as they could be. Hopping on to Twitter to spend all day calling them stupid is just a derivative of the same action being critiqued, though.

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 months ago

i disagree. I still think our theoretical understanding among the american "left" is still extremely poor and we need to rectify that before we put the bias towards action. the bias towards action has been what we've been trying since at least the iraq war protests, no?

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You aren't rectifying anything. You set a new path by doing, not posting.

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 months ago

i think the disconnect here is that I think "posting" is "doing" in the modern age. I mean, lenin was fucking exiled just writing to a newspaper (which would have been their equivalent of "posting" in early 20th century) for how long before the revolution? Not to say any of us are the modern day lenin, but I'm not sure what kind of criticism you can lay against "posting" that you couldn't have laid against lenin back then.

[-] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

Jesus,posting isn't praxis

Just because people can get radicalized through the internet,that doesn't mean posting by itself is some revolutionary act

At most,it's another medium through which to spread the ideology,but is no where near anything actually impactful in the real world if it's not accompanied by boots on the ground stuff

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

once again, this is shit you could have said about newspapers back in the day (if not even more so, the internet consumes more of our lives than anyone ever read newspapers). Ultimately, yes, you do need boots on the ground action eventually, but my point is more that we've tried going all in on "fuck theory, we have to act NOW!!!" since the iraq war at least and it has gotten us literally no where, and so maybe we should try pulling back on that mindset and try to hone theory for like a decade?

[-] newmou@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

I think the thing you’re missing is that there are three paths, and you’re describing only two: building proper theory before doing praxis, and pushing praxis without building the proper theory first. Sounds like you’re saying we’ve been spending too much time with the latter and should concentrate on the former so as to maximize the latter come time. The thing is, neither of those are right, because they must proceed in tandem, and according to a mass line of simultaneously achieving goals of the masses and your own localized proletariat. And importantly, through solving the mass line needs of your local proletariat, honing your understanding of the praxis needed, and any theory shortcomings, that would serve the broader population. Once many groups in different places are doing that, there becomes revolutionary coalescence

[-] newmou@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

I guess more simply put, you will learn “what must be done” by engaging with your local communities on their specific needs, and helping them to interpret those needs along a class analysis

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 months ago

I don't really disagree but we amerikkkans are so anti-intellectual I almost feel like purposefully shooting for concentrating on theory will make us land in the balanced middle 😭

[-] newmou@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

I think most regular people will think it’s elitist

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 months ago

I think the idea here is to try and gather up the "advanced" section of the working class who are already educated enough about these debates to not be turned off by this. Still, I get the concern, I think our anti-intellectualism problem is quite big but I'm really not sure how to actually solve it because focusing on theory doesn't really seem like it would solve it to me either ¯\(ツ)

[-] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

I understand where you're coming from,but random internet posters pontificating online is nothing like the discussions going on between radical revolutionaries in the previous century, especially considering that the America of today and the Europe of then are two radically different settings, with a giant chasm separating the material conditions and the degree of radicalization from then to the material conditions and radicalization of now

I mean,don't get me wrong,it's getting there,but to want to put a pause on direct action so we can navel gaze and comb over every imperfection isn't exactly a winning strategy

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 months ago

once again wouldn't have lenin basically been a nobody until the revolution? like, can you name the head of the PSL and FRSO right now without looking it up (hell, I'm not actually sure if FRSO even advertises who their head is). I'm not saying a complete pause but if I had to guess I would say PSL and FRSO are putting a lot more effort into direct action than they are into advancing the theoretical line wouldn't you?

[-] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Not American,so no,but I get your point

Honestly,I don't see what those organizations would do that would advance theory without direct action

Debates?Intra organization discussions?I mean,don't they do those already?

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 months ago

from what i can tell: no they really don't debate much

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago
[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Not to say any of us are the modern day lenin

you don't say

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago
[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 months ago

i'm young and have been a marxist for like 2 years you dont need to reinforce shit with me

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

I'm going to try and give you some grace, but you are testing my patience at this point.

  1. It has been correctly identified that this sort of protest is not getting results.

  2. It has been correctly identified that it's not getting results because there is no organizational power behind these protests that can meaningfully threaten any existing power structures.

  3. The next step is to then determine how to build that organizational power and then set about building it. Dwelling on #1 or #2 stops being productive and becomes an egotistical exercise in spiking the football on comrades who are upset about a genocide.

[-] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago
[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 months ago

my point was more that I dont see myself anywhere near lenin, not that my opinions hold no merit???

[-] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

No,they do,but I'm in the same boat as you are and I disagree with the premise

I certainly sympathize with this way of viewing things,but it seems a bit undeveloped on account of you being so young

Still,maybe you're right and this way of viewing things will be more effective in the future,but even I,as a fellow young'un myself,I find it to be a erroneous way of viewing things

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 months ago

my opinion comes from looking at the history of the american communist movement. there's pretty much 2 explanations for why the american communist movement was and still is so weak no? lack of material conditons and weakness of the theory and practice of our communists. Our material conditions aren't great for recruiting communists for much of the population (labor aristocracy etc.) but also our communists groups really seem like they've fucking sucked ever since the black panther party got crushed

[-] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I think this is an erroneous way of looking at things

I am not American,but in my opinion the first factor has more to do with active state suppression of radical leftist figures rather than just simple rot within the party structures of these organizations

The second I can agree with

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 months ago

I am not American,but in my opinion the first factor has more to do with active state suppression of radical leftist figures rather than just simple rot within the party structures of these organizations

I actually think this is something else you can critcize our orgs for. why is that we all still seem completely cowed and terrified by the state? there must be a path through this that we havent found yet. This is something I havent done much reading on, but for instance why arent our party leaders just hiding out in antiwestern countries? once again that's what lenin did, why don't we copy that better? maybe there are better reasons for not doing it, but I certainly am unaware of any good theory debates over it

[-] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

I will preface this by saying I am equally not well versed in theory, but i don't think you can just copy what Lenin did back then and have it work in the here and now

Also,this is the CIA we're talking about,I'm not saying that maybe something more couldn't have been done,but it was kind of a done deal, especially by the end of the cold war

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 months ago

copy? of course not, if I thought we should copy him i would be a (shudders) trot, but we should look to see if we can find inspiration from older revolutionaries in any ways we can

of course the state repression is always something to keep an eye on, but i dont think it can be the ultimate excuse either. there must have been ways to deal with that we didn't figure out (and hell still need to figure out better than FRSO's "let's make it really weird and hard to figure out who our highest leaders are")

[-] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

Well,I have a limited knowledge on the state of socialist organizations in America,so I'll leave that discussion to be had by the American commrades

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 months ago

fair enough, if I remember correctly you're from romania right? if so I don't envy your task either, good luck on convincing your fellow countrymen zoidberg saluting 1

[-] immuredanchorite@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

Where do correct ideas come from? Do they fall from the sky?

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 months ago

I think mao said they fell down from a coconut tree or something

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