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[-] mrfriki@lemmy.world 74 points 1 week ago

What I didn’t like about Eternal was being forced to use specific weapons to kill certain enemies. For me this kind of shooters are all about use “the right tool for the job”. If I fancy using the two barrels shotgun from start to finish, just let me do so.

[-] BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I'm glad I'm not the only one with that criticism. I enjoyed the first game so much more because of that.

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

I can see a lot of DE Fans not enjoying this. But DE was a weaker entry to me so I'm excited to play this one.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 week ago

Disco Elysium fans would be pretty confused by this, agreed

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Lol to be fair, if you are in a thread on Doom, Disco Elysium isn't something I'd expect seen or abbreviated.

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Fans of mailing things to Delaware would also be confused by this.

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Dammit. I didn't think of them. I'm so heartless.

[-] Alk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Dragonball evolution fans are even more confused.

[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I dunno, I'm someone who was fine with the changes to combat introduced in Doom Eternal, but was honestly really turned off by how much id was kinda huffing their own farts with the story. The first game had Doomguy punch any attempts at exposition. The second turned Hayden into an Angel, the AI friend into God, the demons are extraplanar aliens that are being used for energy by the angels, and now the Doom Slayer is some destined force of cosmic balance. The little bits were of larger lore were kinda funny in the first game, it became flanderized in the second, and now for a prequel I'm worried id's managed to fit their entire head up their own ass trying to convince everyone how cool their space marine is.

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Yeah, the exposition was part of what made DE weaker to me. Too much plot lead to losing the plot. The gameplay was fun enough overall, and I enjoyed a lot of the changes. But it was also too fuckin much keyboard ballet and pattern recognition for my tastes. If I want to kill something in a way that's not the prescribed way, I want to be able to do that. But it became a formula and that's not a playstyle I like because it bores me. It becomes math homework. Couple that formulaic approach with the fuckin massive swarms of unrelenting enemies and you end up having to fight like a robot. I preferred the 2016 mantra of fight like hell.

[-] Eccitaze@yiffit.net 2 points 1 week ago

God, yes, I tried to get into the game twice and both times I bounced off right around the part where you go from Hell on Earth to a fucking high fantasy castle on some random planet. I'll just replay Doom 2016 if I want to shoot some demons.

[-] ramirezmike@programming.dev 22 points 1 week ago

I always felt like dodging projectiles and not needing to worry about vertical aiming was the best part of doom.

It also translates to controllers well too vs the hit scan skills required with modern fpses along with the ability to aim on the vertical axis

[-] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Recently replayed doom 64 on pc and that game is so crisp. Feels really good on a controller and no vertical aiming is handled superbly in that game.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah that feeling of spacial awareness as you're kiting around groups of enemies. Helps to have simple, easily identifiable level geometry for that matter.

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 16 points 1 week ago
[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago
[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I gotta keep it real with you: Nothing about the trailer looks interesting to me. My viewpoints on Doom are pretty colored due to Mick Gordon's claims and the poor combat and traversal loops in Eternal.

At least its not Doom 3 all over again.

[-] Tyfud@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Looking at the trailer and reading the article, it's clear they're going back to the doom 1 roots with the way the projectiles feel like it's a 2D top down shooter.

That's the way it's supposed to feel imo, and I dig the direction they're heading and the combat definitely felt like oldschool 2D top down shooters were supposed to feel: Dodge everything, never stop firing.

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