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The original exposé describing Trump’s offer to end US efforts to cut greenhouse gas emissions and end environmental for a billion dollars regulation is here

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[-] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago

What are they going to do about it? Whine that "he can't do that!" Toothless and pointless as always

[-] Gonkulator@lemm.ee 33 points 5 months ago

The jan 6 committee referred and handed over their investigations finding to the doj. Over 1000 have been indicted, many jailed and the fashy don himself is indicted on some pretty serious felonies. So they could do that?

[-] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

Yeah but is any of that going to stop him from potentially becoming President again? From committing more crimes? End up with him in actual jail or facing any real, non-monetary slap-on-wrist punishment?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating doing nothing. My argument is that this course of action ain't it bc it doesn't address the root of the problem: the open secret that wealth and privilege operates in an entirely different criminal and justice system, and the dog and pony show they're putting on here will only affect the small fall guys while the orange asshole continues to skate away unscathed

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

So what are you suggesting?

[-] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Have his tangible assets (buildings, cash...etc) confiscated since they're all, for the most part, tied to numerous fraudulent misrepresentations and crimes, and fucking jail him and throw away the key like they would for any other non-wealthy or politically connected fellon. We've all seen him commit crimes on TV, brag about them publicly, admit to them multiple times, his co-conspirators have been sentenced and gone to jail in cases where he's named as a party, and yet we're still doing "more investigations" and lining up cases so they're "just right." This level of genuflection and weasel wording wouldn't even be fathomable for a normal person. "Oh but he has money to fight" - yeah that's the fucking problem. 99% of the shit I've seen him and his attorneys throw at the courts just to gum up the works would get any other attorney and/or defendant laughed out of the court room. Start heavily sanctioning his attorneys for making a mockery of the court, start dismissing his bullshit staling with extreme prejudice...etc. We have the solution - we use it every single day against hundreds of thousands of normal people caught up in the system. Yet this one single turd is somehow above it and continues to get the kid glove treatment.

Baring all that...maybe invest the investigation money in a 10 year supply of hamberders and diet cokes and send it to him so he hopefully fucking croaks before the election.

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

You mean over 1000 that will be immediately pardoned if Trump gets elected?

Those 1000?

[-] potpotato@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Doubt. Donnie don’t give a shit.

[-] irreticent@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

He does when it benefits him. If he signals that he will pardon anyone willing to stage a coup for him then he will have a much more willing horde for part two.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 32 points 5 months ago

A Senate committee can do a few things:

  • It can propose changes to the language of US law so that our relatively weak bribery statutes are a closer to other developed countries
  • It can lay out the evidence for the American people and help get it widely covered in the press, reducing Trump's odds of being elected again
  • It can deliver the evidence to the Justice Department with a recommendation for prosecution
[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

It can lay out the evidence for the American people and help get it widely covered in the press, reducing Trump's odds of being elected again

Have you not been paying attention the last 8 years?

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 11 points 5 months ago

Most people aren't paying attention, and reminding them of Trump's corruption is useful.

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

No no, you don't understand.

I'm not going to give you any suggestions or actually say anything, I'm just going to point out that what you're saying won't do anything. /s

In case you're confused, this is sarcasm. So far the people in here saying "this won't do anything!" aren't actually putting forth any suggestions - meaning they don't know what they're talking about.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

" Hey! That's illegal"

"LOL"

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