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Top Democrats launch inquiry into Trump’s brazen $1bn pitch to oil execs
(www.theguardian.com)
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What are they going to do about it? Whine that "he can't do that!" Toothless and pointless as always
The jan 6 committee referred and handed over their investigations finding to the doj. Over 1000 have been indicted, many jailed and the fashy don himself is indicted on some pretty serious felonies. So they could do that?
Yeah but is any of that going to stop him from potentially becoming President again? From committing more crimes? End up with him in actual jail or facing any real, non-monetary slap-on-wrist punishment?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating doing nothing. My argument is that this course of action ain't it bc it doesn't address the root of the problem: the open secret that wealth and privilege operates in an entirely different criminal and justice system, and the dog and pony show they're putting on here will only affect the small fall guys while the orange asshole continues to skate away unscathed
So what are you suggesting?
Have his tangible assets (buildings, cash...etc) confiscated since they're all, for the most part, tied to numerous fraudulent misrepresentations and crimes, and fucking jail him and throw away the key like they would for any other non-wealthy or politically connected fellon. We've all seen him commit crimes on TV, brag about them publicly, admit to them multiple times, his co-conspirators have been sentenced and gone to jail in cases where he's named as a party, and yet we're still doing "more investigations" and lining up cases so they're "just right." This level of genuflection and weasel wording wouldn't even be fathomable for a normal person. "Oh but he has money to fight" - yeah that's the fucking problem. 99% of the shit I've seen him and his attorneys throw at the courts just to gum up the works would get any other attorney and/or defendant laughed out of the court room. Start heavily sanctioning his attorneys for making a mockery of the court, start dismissing his bullshit staling with extreme prejudice...etc. We have the solution - we use it every single day against hundreds of thousands of normal people caught up in the system. Yet this one single turd is somehow above it and continues to get the kid glove treatment.
Baring all that...maybe invest the investigation money in a 10 year supply of hamberders and diet cokes and send it to him so he hopefully fucking croaks before the election.
You mean over 1000 that will be immediately pardoned if Trump gets elected?
Those 1000?
Doubt. Donnie don’t give a shit.
He does when it benefits him. If he signals that he will pardon anyone willing to stage a coup for him then he will have a much more willing horde for part two.
A Senate committee can do a few things:
Have you not been paying attention the last 8 years?
Most people aren't paying attention, and reminding them of Trump's corruption is useful.
No no, you don't understand.
I'm not going to give you any suggestions or actually say anything, I'm just going to point out that what you're saying won't do anything. /s
In case you're confused, this is sarcasm. So far the people in here saying "this won't do anything!" aren't actually putting forth any suggestions - meaning they don't know what they're talking about.
So not much then. “Hey can you guys stop being corrupt? Here is an action plan that will stop you from being corrupt, we recommend you do something about the corruption, here is all your homework done for you”
“Yea, yea, put it on the pile, it’s at the cylindrical file cabinet”
Did you read their reply or just go ahead and make the statement you wanted to make?
It's ok to make the statement but don't pretend the other commenter didn't actually make valid points.
Trump was just found guilty on 34 felonies and is the Republican nominee for president. It's probably a good idea to go ahead document any other fuckery he's up to while there's time.
My main point is we have been here before, these things have been done before, and i have zero confidence in our system to hold him accountable. The post i responded to said that this will T-up actions for entities that actually have teeth. But so far these entities have been ineffective at best, obstructive at worst.
None of this has ever happened or been done before. You think Putin would ever stand trial and get convicted by a jury? The system is far from perfect but your ignorant bullshit doesn’t hold a candle to it. You’re just like the morons campaigning for a collapse because you’re too naive, ignorant, and unmotivated to do anything at a local scale to influence progressive change. You want a plate served clean with only your feelings neatly arranged and anything else warrants systematic destruction. The only thing that separates you from trump is the chair you’re sitting in, some made up money, and presumably being convicted of 34 felonies for defrauding the public to undermine an election.
I guess we will have to wait and see, wont we?
" Hey! That's illegal"
"LOL"