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[-] burgermeister@lemm.ee 78 points 5 months ago

Why are they carrying it that way, so unsafe

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago

Cause it's a comic and needed a punchline.

[-] mofongo@lemm.ee 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I am not from the US, why isn’t it safe? Doesn’t it have a safety where you can turn the gun off?

[-] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 5 months ago

I believe proper gun safety teaches people to treat every gun as loaded and safety off. Same reason it's extremely unsafe to point a supposedly empty gun at someone.

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 39 points 5 months ago

'Never point any firearm at anything you are not intending to destroy' is like rule one of any gun range or weapons safety course.

This is taught not only to instill fear and respect, but because weapon malfunctions and user errors happen, and they maim and kill people.

I have had squib rounds on the range, and shitty .22 ammo go off 4 seconds after i pulled the trigger. Had I just assumed it was immediately a dud and gone to clear it without waiting, I could have shot the person in the next stall.

[-] Hupf@feddit.de 7 points 5 months ago
[-] Cliff@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

It hasn't been 22.3 years yet...

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Many pistols have safeties and/or hammers that can be easily set to an unsafe when carried like this, if you bump into something or even lean the wrong way.

Theres also the chance of blowing your genitals off or shooting yourself in the hips, upper legs, in a way thats fairly likely to paralyze you or kill you from blood loss from shooting your genitals or femoral artery, if you manage to disengage the safety and also pull the trigger, or draw the weapon improperly in a state of basically threatened panic. Statistically this is rare, but it has happened more than once.

Imagine sitting and then standing and then sitting again with your gun like this.

Ok, now imagine walking or jogging or running and then stopping suddenly. Or even leaning over to reach something.

In addition to being just very uncomfortable with a gun digging into your stomach and crotch, probably the actual main reason this is stupid is that it just is not actually secure, the gun is likely to accidentally fall out and not go off, but scatter across the floor and scare the shit out of everyone nearby.

In ... most (?) of the US, its probably accidentally a crime (brandishing) to even accidentally reveal a concealed weapon without an imminent threat to your person, though this will vary greatly by state, locality and the situation.

Holsters exist to solve this problem.

The closest thing to this that people actually are Appendix Inside Waistband Holsters that clip onto a belt, and go under an overshirt, but over an undershirt, or what are called Belly Bands for non belted people, those are basically underarmor style waistbands with shaped pockets.

In reality these are generally fairly uncomfortable for most people I've ever known that carry a gun on a regular basis.

[-] JillyB@beehaw.org 8 points 5 months ago

Many/most guns don't have a safety. It carried, they should be in a holster that covers the trigger. When you draw it, it's ready to fire.

[-] Hexarei@programming.dev 7 points 5 months ago

Basically, imagine every gun has a laser beam coming out the end. If that laser lights something up, that something is in danger.

[-] cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

It's drawn for comedic effect, but ideally it should be in a proper holster (it can still be in that area, like an appendix holster), that covers the trigger and protects the hammer - prevents it from falling out - and also ensures the weapon is always pointing slightly away from the body towards the ground

[-] JayDee@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

In the US? Dudes love glocks here, so fewer guns have anything but a trigger/grip safety.

[-] jrwperformance@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Yeah... probably best to have an in the waistband holster.

[-] mlfh@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Best gun-pants ergonomics, tucked in the front

[-] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago

See my other comment.

[-] don@lemm.ee 57 points 5 months ago

Fuck me, hold tight. There’s a gun in your trousers. What’s a gun doing in your trousers? What's to stop it from blowing your bits off every time you sit down?

[-] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 5 months ago

Hi there from !armedqweers@lemmy.blahaj.zone

A proper carry holster is designed to protect the trigger/trigger guard to prevent the pistol from firing.

[-] Sizzler@slrpnk.net 12 points 5 months ago

There's no holster in the picture. Clearly.

[-] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago

I'm on a small screen.

[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I would assume that the safety switch helps with that

[-] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

Should never rely on a safety for that, though a gun in a proper holster should be impossible to discharge.

Guns should never be tucked into a waistband without a proper holster.

[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Of course. But if you're the kind of person who would carry a gun in their waistband you probably have a looser definition of gun safety than most people

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

Protection? From who? "Ze Germans"?

[-] lseif@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 months ago

okay moneybags, not everyone can afford fancu holsters

[-] Exec@pawb.social 13 points 5 months ago

If you can afford a gun you can afford a holster

[-] RedditRefugee69@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago

As a boring ass cisgender I approve this message

[-] hashferret@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

As a mormon raised cisgender I used this meme to shutdown a family conversation.

[-] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 5 months ago

Thank you for your service.

[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago

As someone not from the US...this is a bit weird.

Why have they got a gun?

[-] fishbone@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago
[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 months ago

But a gun is not protective, but offensive.

A ballistic shield would be.

[-] PiousAgnostic@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I mean, they say the best defense is a good offense.

[-] fishbone@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Just like a sword is protective against another sword, a gun is protective against another gun.

Someone swings a sword at you? Simply parry the blade.

Someone shoots at you? Simply shoot the bullets out of the air.


Nah, but the honest response is that guns are relatively commonly referred to as 'protection' (at least where I am) and I thought the word bit would be funny here, and also because it was my first thought. For what it's worth, I agree with you that guns aren't protective as a whole.

[-] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 5 months ago

For people who ask stupid questions about their gender.

Based on their pin their gender is Bottom and their pronouns are Sussy/Baka

[-] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago
[-] germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 5 months ago
[-] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago

I didn't say it wasn't, that it isn't.

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 months ago

Armed minorities are harder to oppress

[-] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 months ago

Based AF right there

[-] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

If the left would stop trying to disarm the powerless, it would be a lot easier to get on board.

[-] Outokolina@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago

Here's some left for you:

"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary" Karl Marx

[-] yetAnotherUser@feddit.de 12 points 5 months ago

Note that just because Marx said something doesn't mean you should treat it as a gospel.

Marx lived from the early 19th to the late 19th century and didn't witness WW1. Since then, the military has become almost infinitely more powerful compared to Marx's days, where armed workers stood an actual chance against the military. Nowadays though? Not even remotely. Shut off the internet and electicity in a region, ban the press from reporting, send in the military and wipe out any protest, regardless of how many arms there are. Just take a look at Chechnya and how well they've been doing after declaring independence.


The US is an exploitative capitalist country despite having an awful amount of guns.

Northern European countries are significantly less exploitative, while still capitalist, countries without nearly as many guns.

The amount of arms in worker's hands and the severity of capitalism has no relation anymore. Hell, by having so many guns, the US can reasonably argue for ever greater police budgets without much backlash. You wouldn't want children to die in school shootings, would you, you monster?

[-] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago

won't be the only nonbinary in the room cos your pronouns about to be were/was

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