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Allegedly the fix is less tone deaf.

Edit: Lol y'all aren't even getting past the first image. The second one is more rage inducing IMO.

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[–] regul@hexbear.net 137 points 6 months ago (2 children)

the guy I'm supposedly counting on to address the climate emergency just hiked up tariffs on solar panels

the guy I'm counting on to restore abortion rights is, himself, anti-choice

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 90 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

he also has approved numerous huge pipelines, some of the largest LNG export terminals, and has sold enormous amounts of public land and oceans

he has deported far more undocumented people, and at a higher rate than trump. He's also trying to pass immigration laws worse than Trump's, and kids no longer have any protections in ICE camps. Immigrants are often shipped to detention camps in Guatemala to make it difficult to seek asylum, against international law.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 71 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Not to mention he destroyed Nordstream, which was the biggest environmental disaster of the decade, releasing so much methane into the atmosphere. Nobody ever talks about this aspect of Nordstream, it was an environmental catastrophe.

The EU just swapped from natural gas to coal. Amazing

[–] delco_disposable@hexbear.net 48 points 6 months ago

I do not understand how chuds see what Joedolf Bidler is doing at the border and go "He's not killing enough ill eagles! frothingfash"

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

kids no longer have any protections in ICE camps.

source?

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

the guy I'm supposedly counting on to address the climate emergency just hiked up tariffs on solar panels

fr this is the time to subsidize solar panels, at home and abroad

[–] laziestflagellant@hexbear.net 113 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm a single issue voter.

big-cool

I'm looking for a single issue Biden is actually making a positive impact on before I vote for him.

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 36 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Tbf the nlrb is better under him

[–] regul@hexbear.net 46 points 6 months ago (1 children)

until Trader Joe's gets it declared unconstitutional

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 39 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Traitor Joe helps Trader Joe put the Working Joe out behind Farmer Joe's barn and Joe Blows his head off

[–] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago

It really is. And I’ve seen this used as a justification for ignoring the genocide. Social fascists operating without the domestic social safety net are truly pathetic.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 months ago

The Supreme Court ruled 8-1 that the right to strike is not absolute this spring and in April ruled that federal agencies can be sued at any time without needing to wait for them to reach a final decision on a policy. They're totally going to rule the NLRB unconstitutional soon.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 100 points 6 months ago

“You leftists are mad about this one thing Biden’s doing, but what about all the other important issues he’s not addressing? Check mate!”

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 82 points 6 months ago (4 children)

single issue voting

okay so liberals are now doing the thing that conservatives loved to do 6 years ago (and still do) where they claim that their views and opinions are being "silenced" but playing extremely coy like everyone doesn't know what "views and opinions" are being silenced. If there ever was a single issue to be a "single issue voter" for, it's genocide; and liberals who traffic in this bullshit are either aware of how disingenuous that is or are genuinely too stupid to see what they're doing. Either is unbelievably contemptible

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 51 points 6 months ago (2 children)

And if you talk about other issues then they'll acuse you of "purity testing". There is no way to make libs see past their own bullshit.

[–] Washburn@hexbear.net 40 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The dem candidate in my state in 2020 supported Donald Trump, said that the current Republican senator didn't work with Trump enough. I got accused of "purity testing" because I said that was a good enough reason to not vote for a Democrat lmao.

Deeply unserious people.

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago

Claire mccaskill or whatever her name is. I remember that shit lol.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 6 months ago

if it wasn't being against genocide they'd find another reason Biden isn't good

Actual arguments I've seen which is just ignoring Bidens track record of terrible politics

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 48 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

My favorite tactic is where they care more about what’s going on domestically than globally. As if. These are the same fuckers salivating over billions to Ukraine to save le democracy. Not to mention how students’ tuition is spent is literally a domestic issue. So much of the money being spent on Ukraine and Israel could’ve been spent domestically but nope. We just don’t have money for anything. These people deserve their teeth kicked in for insulting my intelligence

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago (1 children)

it's the easiest, oldest trick in the book. conservatives pull it all the time too

  1. we can't worry about [foreign issue] when have [domestic issue] to worry about too!

  2. ignore [domestic issue] or just let it get worse because it's a useful rhetorical deflection for step 1 as well as the fact that you genuinely don't care

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

we can't worry about [foreign issue]

unless menacing some-controversy menacing menacing bad country

[–] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The state engaging in performing and/or support and aiding a genocide is not a "single issue" lmao. I love how they say that. "Single issue". To get to the point where you are assisting a foreign ally committing a genocide on people who never wronged you is hundreds of issues building up over the course of decades.

It's not an "oopsie doopsie I wrote a check to Israel and then they used that money to kill Palestinians all of a sudden". It's a, "all of the thousands of things that we have done for 70 years in pursuit of our interests in merely one particular region of our empire has made this genocide inevitable". How the fuck liberals look at this scenario and see only one issue here is so astronomically fucking unbelievable that it cannot possibly be true. They know full goddamn well it's not a single issue but they have to word it that way so they don't sound ridiculous scoffing at someone being concerned with the military industrial complex.

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

Of the never ending list of reasons why liberals are so goddamn insufferable, their complete cluelessness juxtaposed against their very serious, intellectual demeanor is beyond aggravating. They assume the way things are is the right way for the world to be, and if they don't know the reason for something, they're positive the real reason is one that reaffirms what they already believe. All what they don't know is just stuff they haven't gotten around to learning yet, but they're positive they already know it better than those peaky tankoids

[–] Jacobo_Villa_Lobos@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

They pretend that single issue voters don’t get their way. Haven’t they seen the damage that single issue voters on criminalizing abortion have done?

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 78 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Liberals have determined that pro-Palestine young people have the power to sway the entire universe towards fascism or democracy. The most logical tactic would be to appeal to them, or at the very least compromise with them, or at the very least pretend to care about their problems. But they decide to do nothing, wish for more violence on protestors, then get upset when the young people don’t want anything to do with liberals.

These are the same people who tell you to take economics 101 but they fail at basic diplomacy and negotiation lol

And the kicker is that statistically, Palestine isn’t in the top issue for a lot of young people, but liberals think it is and quadruple down on the Zionism instead of addressing any other issue in the myriad of issues available. The government for past 4 years has shown it cares about nothing except the stock market, Ukraine, and Israel.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 44 points 6 months ago

The most logical tactic would be to appeal to them, or at the very least compromise with them, or at the very least pretend to care about their problems

None of those things liberal voters can meaningfully do though. Its on their representatives and Biden to do those things and they've been crystal clear that they never will. All these liberal voters are doing is going through different stages of grief while trapped between loyalty to their party and leftists harassing them for supporting genocide.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 64 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes I’m a single issue voter, and that single issue is the destruction of Amerikkkan empire

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago
[–] Egon@hexbear.net 62 points 6 months ago

Single issue voters according to dems: "I don't care that you're doing so well on all these things, this single issue is all that matters to me"
Single issue voters IRL: "You're shit on absolutely every single thing, but I'm still willing to vote for you as long as you don't commit a genocide"

[–] newmou@hexbear.net 45 points 6 months ago

Dems don’t want to do any of those signs though. Like they have proven that over and over. The argument is totally cratered

[–] Ideology@hexbear.net 44 points 6 months ago

The world is aflame with nuclear hellfire. Crops no longer grow. Famines and plagues have decimated the human population.

Democrats:

smuglord Unlike you tankies, I am objectively morally correct because I voted for Hillary.

[–] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 39 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why don’t centrist libs stand up and protest any of these issues. They have 1 March every four years and vote once every two. The kids protesting probably phone banked more hours in 2020 than all the fuckers complaining combined.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

The kids protesting probably phone banked more hours in 2020 than all the fuckers complaining combined.

None of these libs even understand what that means because they have absolutely zero experience with real politics. They're entire understanding of politics is exclusively media.

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 38 points 6 months ago

Our single issue is genocide, their single issue is Trump. All the signs they hold are ultimately hollow talking points that they only invoke to scare people about Trump to leverage them to vote Biden -- outside of that usage, the democrats talk about wanting a strong republican party, do fuck-all federally to protect the rights of marginalized people, do fuck-all to protect abortion rights, do fuck-all about the climate ...

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 36 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Looked at one of those threads and someone made a good point: single issue anti-abortion voters got abortion rights overturned.

Single issue voting works. It's almost Maoist!

There is always only one principal contradiction; however, the contradictions can trade places of importance. When looking at numerous contradictions, one must understand which contradiction is superior. One must also remember the principal and non-principal contradictions are not static and will, over time, transform into one another. This also causes a transformation of the nature of the thing, for the principal contradiction is what primarily defines the thing. These two different contradictions prove that nothing is created equally by showing the lack of balance that allows one contradiction to be superior to another.

Meanwhile, in the comic, Lady Lib is trying to tackle a dozen issues at the same time and is being overwhelmed by the different non-principal contradictions, unable to even hold on to all her signs. They're literally refuting themselves!

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago

Weirdly the uncommitted movement has more faith in democracy than most vote blue libs.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They act like it's only possible to care about one thing at a time. Yeah, the genocide is the most pertinent issue right now, but we've been talking about literally all of those other things for decades. Which, surprise, Democrats have made no effort to fix, and have actually made most of them worse.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My single issue: End political corruption and corporate greed by giving workers ownership over the means of production

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

mine is death to amerikkka

At the rate we're going, wait about a year.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago

This is the inevitable result of supporting Biden. You can say "yes he's doing genocide but trump will somehow do more genocide" but that's effectively campaigning against your candidate by associating him with genocide.

So the next step is to not talk about Palestine at all. Sweep it under the rug. But now you gotta explain why young people are so pissed at you so you make up some bullshit.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago

It’s called Stockholm Syndrome because it’s about how soc dems are in love with the status quo.

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Abortion dropped under Dems

Climate change that hits the goal

The southern border is getting cringe

Single payer healthcare

Mental healthcare is hard to come by

Unions need more presence in government

COVID relief

Homelessness is a choice

Pulling out of Ukraine

Playing nice with China

Playing nice with South America

Prison abolition

Reinvestment of police budgets

Stacking the supreme court

Declassifying JFK and 9/11

School lunches for children

Research grants are hard to come by

Ads are everywhere

Inflation

Crumbling roads

Car dependency

No high speed rail

Cost of living out pacing wages

Multiple jobs to afford CoL is cringe

Bullshit jobs to prop up the economy is cringe

Rent seeking behavior in housing is cringe

I'm never going to see a cent of social security

Simplifying the tax code or doing it for me

No guarantees of vacation or paternity/maternity leave

War on drugs

Reappropriation of military budget

Billionaires are policy failures

Personally, I want the psyops to stop so you'd have to ask the CIA to chill

I don't fucking like what the Dems are doing on the issues I care about! And this is a quick list. I bet I forgot something I care deeply about. I don't even think they're going to be effectual on the issues they brought up, honestly. And all of these suggestions are for living under capitalism. Don't even get me started on how I want to be represented politically, how I want the labor force to self-organize, and how America deserves to atone for the havoc it causes abroad by cleaning up some of the rubble.

[–] MineDayOff@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why don't you care about the carrot I dangle every election cycle!?

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

you like democracy right? don't you want to save democracy? also stop asking for better options. there are no better options. you'll eat your damn peas and like it.

[–] AutoVomBizMarkee@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago

Biden’s failure on everything on the right side of that comic had me not voting for that bozo already, the material and ideological support of genocide is just the icing on the shit cake.

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

it'd be more accurate if Lady Liberty's hands were covered in blood to her elbows.

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

Not to mention Biden has done none of the other things that Lady Liberty is holding

[–] bumpusoot@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

So.. was the US acting on any of this before recent Israel-Palestine escalations? Why didn't Obama or Biden fix any of these problems despite being voted in by a totally working democracy?