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The Justice Department has determined that Boeing violated a settlement that allowed the company to avoid criminal prosecution after two deadly crashes involving its 737 Max aircraft, prosecutors told a federal judge on Tuesday. 

It is now up to the Justice Department to weigh whether to file charges against the aircraft maker. Prosecutors will tell the court no later than July 7 how they plan to proceed, the Justice Department said. 

Boeing failed to make changes to prevent it from violating federal anti-fraud laws — a condition of the the 2021 settlement, Glenn Leon, the head of the fraud section of the Justice Department’s criminal division said in a letter.

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[–] stembolts@programming.dev 124 points 2 years ago

Here at Boeing, we only kill a statistically acceptable number of humans to avoid affecting the stock price. Fly Boeing today. We did a good job forty years ago so trust us today!

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hey, they’re whacking whistleblowers as fast as they can, alright

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

You want me to whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? If that's the case you can whack me off right now.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

How many criminal prosecutions do I get waived if, for strictly hypothetical reasons, if I send tens of people into danger by launching them in a metal tube that comes apart midair?

As a side notes, I am starting an aero tube company that 'already' has 'multiple' 'investers'. DM me for info on how to give me money!

[–] mynachmadarch@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Call it "Sky gate" and control the tube with a $15 cheapo gamepad and I'm in.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Yea. It's a once in a lifetime trip to visit the site of the Columbia disintegration. 120k per passenger. No refunds.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The future spaceship can be called Heaven's Gate.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Refreshments included!

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Well that depends, can you get a republican elected in 6 months?

Heaven forbid you suffer “REGULATIONS”…

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Corporations are people. Unless they commit felonies, then you can't treat them like people.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

And if anyone is held accountable, they cannot be an executive

[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They're not gonna do shit.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We know, but it would still be fun to watch them sweat a little at the incredibly remote possibility.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sweat? The only one that's gonna sweat is the prosecutor that wakes up with a horse's head in his bed.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Hey, don't kinkshame.

[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

A man can dream!

[–] Ejh3k@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You gotta wonder if Boeing execs are flying in Boeing planes anymore?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm sure theirs have much higher standards of maintenance.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m sure theirs are privately owned.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

Why would they be? Planes are expensive. Better to make the company pay for it.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Does make you wonder what size private jet are they flying?

Boeing offers the BBJ plane models, but that’s private versions of large airliners like the 737 up to a 777. They start at something like 150m and I don’t know if they offer anything comparable to a gulfstream which are like half the price and size.

Regardless you know damn well Boeing execs’ planes have a maintenance schedule 10x that of average commercial airframes with a tenth the flight time.

[–] Illegalmexicant@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

"how much is our fine?"

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago

And if they do that 2 or 3 thousand more times the Government MIGHT decide to MAYBE look at all the Taxpayer Money we give them and MAYBE take like a PENNY away from that!

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago

ShockedPikachu.jpg

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What’s the remedy here? Will they break up Boeing? Or just let it spiral out of business?

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You would have to nationalize Congress first

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

This is both, funny, sad and a brutal acknowledgement of our democracy's termination.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Give it to me!

I'm not an American citizen, therefore I will operate it with perfect safety and fairness with no consideration of profits.

Though I might siphon off some of the company's profits to fund the communist revolution in Antarctica, so there is that trade off.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Maybe murdering more whistleblowers will help

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

Murdering more whistleblowers helped me and my wife commit more acts of disregarding safety than our HOA could keep up with!

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Fine it to bankruptcy and then bail it out. Nothing else changes.

[–] varnia@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Looks like some people in Justice Department do not value their life. Let's see how long it will take for Glenn Leon to meet up with Joshua Dean and John Barnett.

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Lock them up!

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Trusting a corporation is like trusting a snake. If you're doing anything other than trusting it to be a snake, you're in for a rude surprise.

Our legal system has made our corporate overlords into criminals by allowing them to govern themselves. Without a brain to guide them, they'll just keep following the money til there's nobody left to make money from. They've literally sold their right to do otherwise (see: the stock market)

It is our legal system that requires prosecution.