It's so weird how they're just insisting it isn't an android app even though people have proven it is. Who do they expect to believe them?
The same question was asked a million times during the crypto boom. "They're insisting that [some-crypto-project] is a safe passive income when people have proven that it's a ponzi scheme. Who do they expect to believe them?" And the answer is, zealots who made crypto (or in this case, AI) the basis of their entire personality.
In this case the same people made both, so they are already practiced
Their target audience are the most gullible tech evangelists in the world that think AI is magic. If there was a limit to the lies those people are willing to believe, they wouldn't be buying the thing to begin with.
They are technically not wrong when they say that the whole experience isn't made up of just an App
They are intentionally dodging the ACTUAL question.
Anyways here is a leak of their "LAM", which is just playwright for the most part. https://web.archive.org/web/20240424133441if_/https://pixeldrain.com/api/file/vYHXbUwP?download
With that, we have both components, yay?
It’s the Juicero strategy.
“You can’t squeeze our juice packs! Only our special machine can properly squeeze our juice packs for optimal taste!”
The AI boom in a nutshell. Repackaged software and content with a shiny AI coat of paint. Even the AI itself is often just repackaged chatgpt.
I heard someone even leaked the apk LMAO that's hilarious that your 200 dollar product can be literally pirated
Why are there AI boxes popping up everywhere? They are useless. How many times do we need to repeat that LLMs are trained to give convincing answers but not correct ones. I've gained nothing from asking this glorified e-waste something, pulling out my phone and verifying it.
What I don't get is why anyone would like to buy a new gadget for some AI features. Just develop a nice app and let people run it on their phones.
That's why though. Because they can monetize hardware. They can't monetize something a free app does.
The answer is "marketing"
They have pushed AI so hard in the last couple of years they have convinced many that we are 1 year away from Terminator travelling back in time to prevent the apocalypse
I'm confused by this revelation. What did everybody think the box was?
Magic
In all reality, it is a ChatGPTitty "fine"tune on some datasets they hobbled together for VQA and Android app UI driving. They did the initial test finetune, then apparently the CEO or whatever was drooling over it and said "lEt'S mAkE aN iOt DeViCe GuYs!!1!" after their paltry attempt to racketeer an NFT metaverse game.
Neither this nor Humane do any AI computation on device. It would be a stretch to say there's even a possibility that the speech recognition could be client-side, as they are always-connected devices that are even more useless without Internet than they already are with.
Make no mistake: these money-hungry fucks are only selling you food cans labelled as magic beans. You have been warned and if you expect anything less from them then you only have your own dumbass to blame for trusting Silicon Valley.
I think the issue is that people were expecting a custom (enough) OS, software, and firmware to justify asking $200 for a device that's worse than a $150 phone in most every way.
Without thinking into it I would have expected some more custom hardware, some on device AI acceleration happening. For one to go and purchase the device it should have been more than just an android app
The best way to do on-device AI would still be a standard SoC. We tend to forget that these mass produced mobile SoCs are modern miracles for the price, despite the crapy software and firmware support from the vendors.
No small startup is going to revolutionize this space unless some kind of new physics is discovered.
The processing was done server-side as it is with the other thing. If you find a way to do it client-side let me know otherwise I'm not interested in your dumb product.
Yes, but it's also unauthenticated (it doesn't verify it comes from the real device, or even run an account belonging to a device owner)
You just need the app
Until they inevitably shut it down
Spoiler: when they let you know about the better device, your phone will already be much better at the same client-side processing anyway.
So it's just a single app running on a minimal Android implementation, the AI is done on remote servers and it still gets lousy battery life? Sounds like they dropped the ball on design. Nevertheless, no one is going to carry this that doesn't already have a phone that can do everything the Rabbit does. It has no reason to exist.
I don't even understand what the point is of this product. Seems like e-waste at first glance.
It's just marketing to be like "look at how capable our AI is with just one button". I mean if you want to be charitable it's an interesting design exercise, but wasteful and frivolous when everyone is already carrying devices that are far more capable supersets of this.
lol at calling running Android an "emulator".
Also don't they have to distribute the actual code for the OS if it's lightly altered Android?
My understanding is that if you only add modules on top, those can stay closed source. It's possible the AOSP portion of the stack is still stock and untouched.
This is why I cringe at cell phone manufacturers selling cloud and AI features based on phone models because wtf you're not running that cloud on that handset so why do you gatekeep the product behind that model? It can't require that many resources, it's a cloud app!
I defend a lot of misunderstood ai but this doesn't have any good qualities even if it wasn't a scam
it has the same cpu as my budget 100$ phone from 2018 lol
It does not need much to upload data and play audio. They could probably have gone even lower.
hahahaha the juicero of ai android applications
Should’ve named the company Snake Oil Inc.
their page to link accounts to it was not a real webapp, it was a novnc page that would connect to an ubuntu vm that runs chrome with no sandboxing and basic password store under fluxbox wm
someone dumped the home directory from it
Holy shit, that's actually hilarious, I imagine someone would have noticed when their paste/auto type password managers didn't work
For those confused, this sounds like instead of making a real website, they spin up a vm, embed a remote desktop tool into their website and have you login through chrome running on their VM, this is sooooo sketch it, its unreal anyone would use this in a public product.
Imagine if to sign into facebook from an app, you had to go to someone else's computer, login and save your credentials on their PC, would that be a good idea?
The issue isn’t even with what it runs on, albeit selling it as specialized hardware is really bizarre, when it’s just a glorified embedded platform with a scroll wheel
This is the business equivalent of throwing a tantrum.
•Rabbit Inc. is unhappy about details of its tech stack being public, threatening action against unauthorized emulators.
All android devices are "emulators" like their hardware isn't special
An app that would require root access to fully operate. It is designed to run and use apps automatically. Large Action Mode, I think. Easiest way to get this out is a standalone device
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