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[-] balder1991@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

I wonder what percentage of desktop users still use Ubuntu nowadays. Seems like there’s no way to have a clear picture, besides DistroWatch which is more like “interest” and not actual usage?

[-] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

At my work, Ubuntu was the only Linux distro that was used on the desktop.
Some of my relatives use Linux, all Ubuntu.
The only other person I know who uses something else is also a hardcore nerd and professional sysadmin. He uses OpenSUSE.

Outside of the tech bubble, Ubuntu is still synonymous with Linux.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Everyone I know IRL who uses Linux uses Ubuntu. Sample size of 5.

The corpo I work for uses both Windows and Ubuntu for software development workstations. Lately a lot more Ubuntu than Windows. That's a sample size of a thousand.

[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

The official distro at my job is rhel.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah, that's pretty much the only other option for corpos.

[-] Contend6248@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Suse? No evil dipshits and on par with RHEL, at least how far i can see

[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I personally have Xubuntu on multiple machines (I think 3 currently?) And Ubuntu server with i3wm on a 4th.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

I still use it. With all its faults, I still think it's the best distro out there.

[-] tsugu@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

As a fellow Ubuntu user, I think there are distros that are technically superior. But at some point I just got tired of chasing the best option. I just want an operating system that works on all devices I install it to, and that listens to my commands. Ubuntu does that just fine. I love what they've done with GNOME, its ram usage is minimal (1.4GB), apps launch fast, snap is nicer to use than flatpak (which I can install with a single command), and if I wanted to I can stick to an LTS for up to 12 years.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

I'm not a big fan of snaps myself. While it's being used for desktop apps, it was originally intended for system or server apps. And I don't like that it automatically updates applications. I'm sure there are scenarios where using snaps make sense, but I prefer to be in control of my servers and what's running in them.

FlatpaksI think are more practical. It's easier to install desktop apps with flatpaks. However there are some technical limitations apparently. You can lose some functionalities due to how it's implemented.

But for everything else, yeah. Ubuntu works ootb with practically every hardware out there and there is a huge library and community of support.

[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Out of genuine curiosity, what makes you think so?

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago

It's just so easy to use. Supports many devices and has lots of documentation.

Whatever system I've found. Whatever the scenario. I install Ubuntu and it just works ootb. It supports practically all hardware with some rare exceptions. It has great documentation and a large community of users to help fix problems. And when problems happen it's mostly because I fucked up doing something wrong.

And I like that is backed by a company that takes Linux seriously and works hard at making it an actual solution for both desktops and servers. Fedora would come as a very close second in my opinion.

[-] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah ngl Ubuntu is so much easier to get up and running than other distros. It’s fast and reasonably up to date. I will say I’ve found the LTS version to be disappointingly buggy compared to other long term releases like Debian and Leap, but nothing that would motivate me to move to another distro. Just annoying audio related bugs that are easy to fix or get around.

Leap was so solid I wished I could’ve stayed with it, but I didn’t want to commit to a distro with an uncertain future.

[-] iancurtis@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 months ago

Debian 12 is incredibly solid with a relatively current Gnome 43. I like that it is ran by a community instead of big corpa and I can install Flatpaks.

[-] txiribitus@mastodon.social 0 points 6 months ago
[-] iancurtis@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 months ago

what does this mean?

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's the universal operating system, with long term support (10 years 🤯) and a few quality of life improvements. It runs well on all my hardware, VMs and containers (that I build). It's got perfect desktop defaults for me. It's the defacto standard Linux OS. It's supported by every software developer or vendor who supports Linux. The corpo behind it is not public (yet) and not hell bent on profit extraction. There's an obvious migration path from it to the universal operating system (Debian), should something terrible happen.

[-] iancurtis@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 months ago

I haven't touched Ubuntu for years, but I bet it's still popular with new linux users and there are probably plenty other people who don't care about the snap issues.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago
[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I’m running 22.04.4 Server with kernel 6.5.0-27 and everything is rock solid.

Any reason I should upgrade when stable 24.04 releases? It doesn’t seem to me that there is, but I’m worried missing something.

[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Nah, if you’re on LTS, the recommended upgrade is at XX.04.1, which typically comes around July. And 22.04 doesn’t go end of life until April of 2027, so there’s no mad rush to upgrade if you’re happy.

[-] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

Insightful. Your comment made me smile :)

[-] jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev 3 points 6 months ago

Maybe the newer kernel? But if you don't think you need it you're probably fine tbh

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If you don't already see a reason, you probably don't have one, especially for a server. Especially if you sign up for the Ubuntu Pro free tier, you have 10 years to come up with one. 😂

[-] baatliwala@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

To be pedantic, you can't upgrade to a new LTS the moment it releases (unless you force it). It's offered to users running the old LTS after 6 months IIRC. It's possible to start with 24.04 from scratch, but you can't upgrade for a while.

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 2 points 6 months ago

Ah right. I didn’t know that - thank you. Only really got into self hosting in the last couple of year.

[-] InfiniWheel@lemmy.one -1 points 6 months ago

Does it have the option of using TPM to unlock a LUKS2 encrypted partition like the previous betas? Or was that dropped?

[-] drkt@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Long Term Support... beta?

e: dis a joke yall autistic

[-] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 6 months ago

Yes, what's strange? This is the beta release or release candidate or pre-release snapshot for a version that will enjoy long-term support.

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago

I'd say "release candidate" is a much better name but probably they're testing Ubuntu-specific features and those are in beta. Then it makes some sense

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 6 points 6 months ago

Those are different steps in the Ubuntu release process.

[-] balder1991@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

There’s also the issue of testing all the packages. They have to make sure all the versions frozen in the repository will work smoothly together.

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 months ago

Since the packages themselves are not beta, it's more appropriate to call it a release candidate

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 2 points 6 months ago

The 'release candidate' comes later, after the 'beta' release, see the official schedule.

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 months ago

I'm not talking about the current release cycle. I'm just saying that "beta" is a bad name and it probably should be changed

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

24.04 is an LTS release.

This is a beta of 24.04.

The “name” of the release is “24.04 LTS” ( a perfectly reasonable name that communicates its intent ).

Therefore, this is the “24.04 LTS” beta.

Pretty clear to anybody familiar with the Ubuntu product line.

[-] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

Yes. Debian uses words like Milestone and freeze : https://release.debian.org/bullseye/freeze_policy.html Ubuntu uses the word Beta.

[-] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago

The release names get weirder every year.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago

I never understood the importance given to release names. It’s all fine and dandy to have internal project names, but it features on apt sources files and whatnot. It’s confusing for the user, especially since they have a great numerical scheme. Just refer to the version and be done with it.

[-] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah I hate when I read some tutorial that says "tested on Grumpy Gremlin" and I have to google how old that is.

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I totally agree. They have taken one of the best features of Ubuntu ( the meaningful and easy to understand versioning ) and thrown it in the garbage ).

I have no idea what the code name is for Ubuntu 18.04 or 26.04 but I can tell you when both of them were released.

Using the code names in sources.list is insanity.

[-] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

They're running out of names. I would not mind them using the Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog) name from 2004 for future releases.

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 4 points 6 months ago

Wrinkly Waterbear

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