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[–] dhhyfddehhfyy4673@fedia.io 89 points 7 months ago

Daily reminder that IP law is fucking stupid.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 74 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Unfair Competition Prevention Act

How is selling modified save data is unfairly competitive?

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 70 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Because Nintendo wanted to sell those upgrades instead of someone patching them into the save file?

It's really insane if this story is true.

You use a program to create a file. You modify the file that you created with the program using a different program. Company sues you claiming they own the file that you created with the program you legally purchased.

I wonder what tool chain Nintendo uses internally. Could Notepad++ sue Nintendo for modifying a text file created by Notepad++ without always using Notepad++? They're unfairly cutting Notepad++ out of competition by using vim on txt files originally created with Notepad++ then profiting on the results by selling games that used the modified txt files after compiling them into games.

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[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 25 points 7 months ago

Competition is unfair to monopolies, so this law prevents competition. /j

[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Japan is very nuts with these sorts of laws. Can't even legally physically mod your console

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 14 points 7 months ago

puts a sticker on their PS5

[–] tal@lemmy.today 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

So, I haven't played Pokemon Violet, but looking at Wikipedia, it sounds like it's got a multiplayer game mode:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Scarlet_and_Violet

Mode(s): Single-player, multiplayer

I don't know what the implications of buying what he was selling are, but it's possible that it functionally allowed players to cheat in multiplayer, which kind of ruins the experience of other players.

If it only affects a single-player game, on the other hand, I don't really see a problem being caused.

I'd also add that I kind of feel that at least for this particular form, even if it is multiplayer cheating, while it's probably not practical to mitigate every form of cheating in a multiplayer game, it's probably possible to design the game in such a way that it can't be attacked in this particular way.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They all have multiplayer; you can battle your Pokemon against each other. But they all, also, have exploitable bugs that make cheating without editing a save file easier since you don't need external tools to execute them. If they were actually concerned about cheating, they'd fix the bugs first.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 72 points 7 months ago (4 children)

When I was in school, I bought a Gameboy XPloder for 80 bucks and cheated Mews in Pokemon Red. I sold the Mews to everyone in school for 5 bucks a pop and made back way more than I invested. I don't care if Nintendo finds out because I was 12 when comitting this heinous crime. As a bonus, I also never taxed those business profits. Checkmate capitalists.

[–] muse@kbin.social 19 points 7 months ago

monocle pops off face in shock

[–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Checkmate capitalists.

You didn't beat capitalists; you joined them!

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 7 months ago

Don't be ridiculous, he seized the means of Mew production.

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit man, Lex Luthor over here!

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I also related more with Team Rocket as a child.

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[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 48 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Nintendo please stop. I really liked you

[–] shapis@lemmy.ml 57 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The first mistake was liking a company.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They honestly used to be really solid. I've been there since the NES. During the GameCube days my house burned down. I had happened to order a cable and then it, of course, got sent back to them. I had completely forgotten about this and they called me to ask if the note was correct that the package was undeliverable because the house being gone.

They sent me a new GameCube and five games of my choosing.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

nintendo only does reletively good when their consoles struggle.

whenever they hit something sucessful, they become shrewed and start removing features/make a worse experience at times.

3ds strugles, nintendo gives 20 retro games for free. wiiu struggles, many bogo offers. Switch is sucessful, removes paid for emulated games and pushes them into a subscription service, removes local save backups, removes browser, charges 20$ for online, objectively have a worse online experience to both the WiiU/3DS in many instances. Half asses some games, increases the price of ported games (e.g Tropical Freeze on the WiiU was 50$, then a 20$ nintendo select late in its life, was a 60$ game on the switch)

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

You're confusing Nintendo, the company, with the people who work at Nintendo (minus the corporativist scum). They absolutely have some of the best game devs in the world. They also suck and degrade the gaming sphere on a regular basis.

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[–] 4am@lemm.ee 40 points 7 months ago

Next week: Paco Guttierez, age 9, arrested and sued for $200 million after building a cardboard Nintendo game because his family couldn’t afford the real thing

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago

The world is safe for another day.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

Palworld lookin better and better

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.run 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It’s a good thing they got that scoundrel off the streets before anyone got hurt… /s

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Cops in japan literally has nothing to do. I bet they're excited to finally see some action.

[–] Meansalladknifehands@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You know that Japan has crime? You know that large crime orgs operate in Japan? Everything from drug trafficking, sex trafficking, extortion, protection rackets, arms smuggling is happening.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Articles like this popped every once in a while until bored japan cops become a meme at this point.

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[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Hold on, you can sell made up pokemon that are slightly edited for $84 a pop?

What?

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

He's selling modified game save files it sounds like. No Pokémon were hurt or genetically modified in this man's pursuit of profit.

[–] muse@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ah so he was commiting temporal anomalies and risking a subspace collapse from tampering with multiversal duplication.

5 years in prison sounds too lenient (/j)

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 1 points 7 months ago

In the Pokémon universe? Happens like once a week.

A random kid will probably stop them by accident or something.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

I'm thinking he was probably selling saves with all the Pokémon plus all the Pokémon in shiny and a complete story. I did this with every single Pokémon game prior to switch and put them all on my Pokémon home when they were discontinuing pokebank, but only the ones that are able to be caught legit that way.

[–] muse@kbin.social 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You can buy jpegs for 100k and sell them for 84 bucks too

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Urls of Jpegs lol. Not the actual image.

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago

$84! Has the price gone up recently? LOL

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Japan is not the Japan we think it is.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

A racist xenophobic country that flattens nails and oppresses people for the benefit of the elite due to its hyper hierarchical culture?

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Flattens nails? What, to make them difficult to use with a screwdriver?

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

The nail that sticks out is hammered down, aka tall poppies get cut first, etc.

Not sure why you'd use a screwdriver with a nail...

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[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] FreddyDunningKruger@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

But the devil is always in the details, isn't it? Unless, that is, you stop reading as soon as you hear what you want to hear, and don't go any further in the article...

According to Professor Ryo Ogiso of Chou University, prosecutors defer prosecution in 60% of the cases they receive, and conclude the remaining 30% or so of cases in summary trials. This summary trial is a trial procedure in which cases involving a fine of 1,000,000 yen or less are examined on the basis of documents submitted by the public prosecutor without a formal trial if there is no objection from the suspect. Only about 8% of cases are actually prosecuted, and this low prosecution rate is the reason for Japan's high conviction rate.

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[–] finthechat@kbin.social 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Easy headline to lol at, but this poor guy is fucked. He was doing it to earn a living, now he faces 5 years in jail and/or a $32k fine.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

I still remember when they went after the R4 devs and it accomplished nothing because there were already at least 30 other flashcarts by that point with hundreds of R4 copies.

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is too much, this has to stop. Can't we do anything??

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Don't buy anything from a Japanese video game company.

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[–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Don’t buy and tell others not to either.

[–] wolf@lemmy.zip 7 points 7 months ago

WTF, is there no death sentence in Japan for crimes against humanity and the damage done to rich peoples bottom line? /s

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Nintendo moment

dystopia dystopia dystopia dystopia

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