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[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nintendo wondering if she's stupid

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

I love that

[–] toxicbubble@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

irony is they're closing the 360 online store this year

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago

It was still running?!

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

See you in 3 years when the whole team is cut. You know, for not making any money.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

IDK, MS really went all the way with backwards compatibility. They literally built emulators for the 360 and OG Xbox in order to let people play old games using old disks they already owned.

I'd be shocked if they didn't stay committed to this.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

I hope I'm wrong but companies are about cutting good ideas for short term gains.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Series S doesn't have a disk drive.

The rumored Series X refresh doesn't have a disk drive.

It'd be hard for Microsoft to remain committed to game preservation in that way without them.

To me, this sounds more like they're looking at Nintendo's virtual store playbook and wondering how many times they can sell the same games to their customer base.

[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Series X refresh isn't a rumor, and it doesn't have a disk drive. Microsoft also laid off their physical media dept entirely.

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They could stand to make a bunch of money reselling old games with 4k, vrr, HDR, and calling it remastered.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

They could which sounds like this team or they can make do the GTA route and make a masterpiece again.

[–] GlassedSilver@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ia refuse to build up expectations, the little I'll hope for they will mess up. This is the same company that tried to make physical games unsharable long-term.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Which they walked back and hacen't tried again since. Their latest console is also still backwards compatible with games from the first xbox.

I'm legitimately hopeful. Won't ever stop the best option from being piracy and open source emulators on PC, but Microsoft's track record for backwards compat is sparkling.

Sure, it's not true hardware based backwards compat. It works by using the disc as a key to download and run a full copy of the original game + an emulation layer customized for the specific game, so if you don't have internet or they pull the plug on their store servers you can't just use the disk alone. If you lose the disc or it breaks, you have to buy the game again from their online store. Also, I've encountered some crashes and minor emulation issues with some titles. Poor, poor Kotor.

It's sad, but that's still leagues better than their competitors in the console market.


Sony makes you buy the old games again on each platform. Standard "Virtual Console" type shit. Thankfully, they usually do this by making a general emulator that homebrew folks can later shove non-supported games into.

Nintendo. Nintendo. Are you shitting me? An ongoing subscription to keep access to the same 30 year old games you've been reselling since the Wii?

You can use homebrew to shove other games in, but you risk a ban from their online services. Also, if you're already doing homebrew, the consoles they offer games for this way on the Switch are more than easily handled by Retroarch running as homebrew.

Mario 3D All Stars? Take all the time and money to get a half port half emulation solution working on the Switch for one Gamecube and and one Wii game, sell it as time limited, don't include the direct sequel to the Wii game that was built on the same fucking game engine in the package... and then never use that tech again? Are you fucking kidding me?

That last one shouldn't surprise me too bad though. They managed to emulate the N64 on the Gamecube, and only used it for Legend of Zelda. Once in a limited preorder bonus for Wind Waker, and also in a limited Nintendo Power magazine bonus disc for subscribing.

[–] Vendul@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Consumer friendly products? What is going on?

[–] monkeyman512@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They are loosing to Sony so they have to find new ways of competing for business. You know, how it's supposed to work.

Wish it worked that way more often.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

You know what, this makes me so happy that I’ll give ‘em that:

“Good job capitalism!”

Now I got to go wash my fingers for typing that.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

But just remember that during the 360/PS3 era when MS were in the lead, it was Sony trying to by all consumer friendly, advocating online cross play and having free online service.

MS weren't interested then.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago
[–] Cossty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I am wondering if her father is called James.

[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Forward compatibility? I get backward compatibility, but FORWARD compatibility?

[–] june@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s future backward compatibility.

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

/r/shittytu... Okay, why isn't there a Lemmy version of Shitty Tumblr GIFs?

[–] bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think that just means not making any crazy technological decisions that will likely make games incompatible on future hardware. A great example was the PS3's cell processor. It was excellent tech when used properly, but absolutley not "forward compatible"

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In fairness here, you can't predict the future.

Cell was just PowerPC as was the Xbox 360's Xenon chip. PowerPC is all but dead now, but the same thing could happen to x86 or ARM in the future. No king rules forever.

[–] bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I suppose, but in my mind, unless an absolutely revolutionary technology takes the world by storm, the industry wouldn't just up and abandon x86 and ARM unless compatibility was decent. We're talking ablut a world where businesses still use Windows XP because their software won't work on later versions.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Ensuring that future titles have a preservation plan as part of the development?

[–] EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I mean Computers basically kind of have it

I should be able to play any games that releases in the next 5 years on my current set up

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Right? Like isn't that a joke in Homestar

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Think of all the old games that are no longer playable because the master servers are no longer online.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

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