Meh, the Jews have done plenty of analysis. It's their text after all. They've established personhood status is achieved at birth. Abortion while not promoted, isn't considered 'illegal' IIRC.

Of course you can. Just respond to them "who are you to make claims what god meant". Because if it's word of god, it's word of god and not up to you to interpret it whatever you like or pick and chose in what you believe. But most importantly, Bible says woman is not to lecture a man, but she is to remain silent and obedient. That sort of kills half of the arguments right there.

Even scholarly attempt to analyze the "support abortion" claim fails to do so: https://academic.oup.com/cb/article/29/1/11/7103199

Edit: religion dumb

The problem when you bash millions of people is that your claims against the group becomes untrue very quickly. The Christians in my neck of the woods are generally supportive of women who want to get abortions. Maybe you believe that caveat is automatically implied, but I didn't catch that from my reading of your comment.

I'm not saying there aren't too many who oppose abortion on religious grounds, but I think the bigger problem in society right now is people who have generalized opinions about people due to some (usually intrinsic) group they belong to.

Things ancient Israeli priests cared about:

• The sanctity of life before and after birth: ❌

• Making sure that women were subservient to the men they had been married or given to: ✅

100%, their god isn't even pro choice. He's full on pro-abortion.

I always say I support abortion up to 216 months post term. The little bastard continues to be treated as a parasite until it can fend for itself.

Fun fact, I learned that 216 = 6x6x6 from a Christian YA novel. Three guesses which one and the first two don't count.

Reading and studying the bible (and not listening to apologists), is how atheists are made.

In part II of this segment from Samantha bee, she talks about how Christians used to be opposed to politics because it was seen as “ungodly” and “dirty” to get involved in. [Relevant part is about 1:15 into the video, but you should watch the whole thing, as well as part I. She did some great investigative stuff, but she was a woman in late night, which was basically bound to fail.]

Well, until bussing/segregation spurred that white Christian bloc into action, that is. And when the fervor of that issue died down, the right wing pricks literally got on a conference call to try to reactivate those people to win elections. They were spitballing which issues they could use to get them involved again, and literally one of those assholes just said, “how about abortion?”

And voila. The religious right was born in earnest.

It has everything to do with an abortion. How else do you think the husband would think the wife had an affair other than she is pregnant and shouldn't be?

You expected any talk about abortion to be fun? Whether an abortion is no one’s business but the woman’s, I can’t imagine fun could come anywhere near the experience.

Also, the whole section (not just 21) is a step-by-step guide which results in aborting a baby conceived in an extramarital relationship.

You are someone with a Bible since there's free ones online.

The Test for an Unfaithful Wife

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[c] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[d] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[e] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.