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An Arizona rancher went on trial Friday in the fatal shooting of a migrant on his property near Mexico, with his defense attorney maintaining his innocence as the national debate over border security heats up ahead of this year’s presidential election.

George Alan Kelly, 75, has been charged with second-degree murder in the killing of a man he encountered on his property outside Nogales, Arizona. The jury trial in Santa Cruz County Superior Court is expected to last up to a month until around April 19, with proceedings held four days a week with Mondays off.

Kelly had earlier rejected a plea deal that would have reduced the charge to one count of negligent homicide if he pleaded guilty. His case has garnered the sympathy of some on the political right, with several efforts raising hundreds of thousands of dollars for his defense, including several on the GoFundMe platform that were quickly shut down because of the charges against him.

He was arrested and charged last year in the Jan. 30, 2023, fatal shooting of 48-year-old Gabriel Cuen-Buitimea of adjacent Nogales, Mexico, just south of the border.

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[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 100 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I don’t really see any difference between a migrant on your property and any other human being. If it’s fair game to shoot migrants, it should be fair game to shoot the Christian fundamentalists and Mormons knocking on my door.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Exactly, how did he supposedly identify them as migrants without talking to them?

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 years ago (3 children)

"His case has garnered the sympathy of some on the political right, with several efforts raising hundreds of thousands of dollars for his defense"

I hate this country.

Also, I'm really puzzled that this walking maga stereotype used a Russian weapon to attempt to murder an entire group of brown people. You'd think a guy like this would consider that "commie" shit. These types make as much sense as religious nuts.

[–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

American Conservatives love Russia. It's exactly the brand of Dictatorship they want.

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[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They should try the Nitrogen mask on him.

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If someone shows complete lack of empathy and kills other humans like this, why should we have empathy for him?

[–] KillerTofu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Because everyone deserves forgiveness?

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

All he has to do is cry some Rittenhouse tears.

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I’m not American so I’d appreciate if someone could explain what’s wrong (legally, not morally) in this situation? From what I understand you’re free to shoot trespassers on your property, isn’t that what the whole “muh freedom” culture about?

[–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

From what I understand you’re free to shoot trespassers on your property, isn’t that what the whole “muh freedom” culture about?

Castle doctrine applies to people trespassing inside of your home, not just anyone on your land. We just had a guy get life in prison for opening fire on college students who drove up his rural driveway when they had the wrong address.

If they let this guy get away with what he did, it's actually a pretty scary precident for all of us.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

You should read the article.

I think he's lying, but the defense's claim is that the group the man was in posed a credible threat, as an armed group.

Of course, his victim didn't have any weapons, so gl with that one buddy. We don't have the full picture but that's a pretty damning detail by itself.

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[–] cmoney@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Typically deadly force can only be used if you think your life or safety is threatened, the police will still investigate the shooting and if they think your life or safety might not have been in jeopardy you'll end up in court hoping to justify your actions to a judge and jury.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can't just shoot anyone on your property as some people will have legitimate reasons to be there. As the other person said, your life has to be in danger.

Some states have expanded this to cover public property as well ("stand your ground") while many others give you a duty to retreat before you're justified in killing someone.

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