It's a reason why I've not been actively pursuing a diagnosis. I'm managing it well and having a paper trail would just make some things more difficult.
Well I didn't want it, I have it since I remember.
That you have to do all of that for a driver's license is wild... physical and psychological evaluations?! For a drivers license?!
No, the examiner acused me of having an intelectual disability, just because I'm autistic.
This is for a regular drivers license, yea? The only way those evaluations make sense to me is if you were getting some kind of license to race on closed circuits/tracks.
Sorry you gotta deal with it, regardless!
Do you think the US system is better? Just let anyone and everyone drive 3 tons machines at speeds that would have been impossible to reach in any public mode of transportation 100 years ago?
I mean, the US has driving tests and written tests you have to pass....People don't walk into their state's Department of Motor Vehicles, say "1 license to drive please," and walk out without anyone checking to see if they're competent to drive a non-commercial vehicle.
Arguably they need to test people again once they're seniors, when mental decline can start. But that's another subject.
Yeah, no. A drivers license in the United States is much more like a participation trophy at this point. The testing process mirrors that.
Not everything is about the US, despite them living rent free in your head, apparently. Also, that's not at all how it works in the US. But dont let the truth get in the way of your hate boner.
It pretty much is how it works with how easy to get your license in some States!
Maybe you need to work on masking. Pretending to be a "normal" person to fit in is a big pain, and something I personally hate. But if you act "normal" when meeting new people, they will treat you like everyone else. It's tough to act this way but it might help you.
(It also sucks that we can't be accepted the way we are, but that's how the world is. As much as we might want to change the world, we also have to live in it as it is day to day)
Ye, what I usually do it mask until they treat me as an equal, then casually mention my ASD when it is relevant. I think it serves to normalize it without creating preconceptions.
I mentioned my autism to some of my friends. Some shame me and others are supportive, but nobody actually understands me.
Well, I think I am masking (very badly) and it effects my mental health, so I won't try to improve it, but i still agree with you
I wish people with autism didn't have to mask at all and could just be themselves
That's fair. It's a tough one to balance of having good mental health and energy vs being able to exist in the world.
I have found that once I got out of school and college and things that I "have to" do, I've been able to create and find spaces where I'm able to be more authentically myself, which has definitely helped me. Hopefully you'll be able to find more of those spaces in time
I went through some similar issues at work. I'm pretty good when it comes to understanding technical stuff with their proper names and schematics, but I struggle awfully at understanding organisations (who to talk to when this issue arises, what to do when that stuff comes up, etc). I've been called disappointing because of it, yet as far as I can see I'm the most technically competent person on the team, by far.
It's really frustrating and I have to rely a lot on other people when it comes to organising.
Thankfully the guy I mainly work with is very understanding and helps me a ton on that.
This! People only see what you cant do compared to them while being oblivious to the stuff they themselves cant.
There is also this bias that just because your clearly clever one way (like dealing with patterns off massive data web displayed on a a 4k monitor) means you must be smart everywhere else.
“Hey you’re smart, what is “math equations using more then 4 different numbers”…. I have no short time memory and need a screen for everything . I cannot possibly hold 4 numbers in my head at the same time and calculate.
Well, I dont think anyone can answer this definitively. But I recon its multiple things:
Those are just my thoughts and opinions. Nothing of this is proven fact and I am happy to stand corrected. Just trying to give some ideas of why this might be a unhappy coincidence.
You can always decide to change this and write up a lecture or speech which you can hold at some event if thats your cup of tea. You can then educate large amounts of people in a short timeframe. Good luck.
Yes I see the balkan influence in Slovenia. I feel bad, because my father (also autistic) is on the doctor's side even tho he knows I'm not intelectually disabled (he even thinks I'm smart). He just doesn't want to question their authority.
On the unrelated note: I accidentaly said yes to a question I later learned it was partialy corelated with intelectual disability, so it might be my fault.
Its a dumpster fire all over the world and you‘re not alone. Feel free to go into research and help clear up this idiocy.
because people look for indicators they recognise to assess intelligence and you don't fit their mental model as easily.
you could be cynical and say much of that presentation is manipulated and not a reliable indicator of intelligence, it's just that intelligent people are usually better at controlling their signals - unless they have difficulties with social nuances like us. you could also just shug and say you're different and they don't get it for a while, and that's fine too.
everyone is lazy and uses shortcuts to interpret a complex world. when you're different the shortcuts don't work and people make mistakes. they're also being lazy 🦥
Because most people don't understand that developmental disabilities aren't always intellectual. Same reason a lot of people treat bind, deaf, or other physically disabled people like they are also intellectually disabled.
I feel this post so bad. I'm autistic but according to people that know me well, I'm also highly intelligent. Yet, when I first meet people without masking, they treat me as if I were stupid. This is such an issue in my life that I have often joked about getting a shirt that reads, "I'm autistic, not re****ed", but my NT friends have said that it's a bad idea. Anyway, this happens until a situation presents itself in which my intelligence is demonstrated, then people treat me as some sort of genius/savant. It's ridiculous, but I'm used to it.
It's great, that you found people, that you can joke about your autism without being judged or made fun of. My friend from primary school was one of those people, but later he started going to gym and it inflated his ego to the point, that he stopped respecting me (for "going to a worse high school") and some other people for various stupid reasons.
Yes, thank you! If I can't joke about being autistic with someone, I don't become their friend. Thanks to therapy, I have been really selective with who I allow in my life, and it has made a major welcomed difference in my quality of life and how I see myself.
That sucks about your friend's inflated ego, but I'm happy you see it so you can adjust accordingly.
it's just prejudice.
Same as Black people are subjected to automatic devaluation/abuse, so we are, too.
What's sad about it is that evidence doesn't have any validity to Kahneman System-1 mind ( read "Thinking Fast & Slow" to understand prejudice/ideology )..
Richard Feynman's autistic body-language was obvious-as-hell to anyone who knows to look, go see the youtubes of him, & see for yourself...
and that guy was some 400x as quick at physics as a normal physicist ( literally: a normal physicist did a lecture, giving 365/2 days of his work, Feynman wasn't at that lecture, he heard about it, and 1/2 days, ie that night, he not-only recreated the guy's work, but he took it further than the original guy did. He was THAT fast. ).
Autistics are underrepresented in motor-vehicle crash-statistics.
With reason: we're more rational, more predictable.
Prejudice will never allow facts to interfere with imprint/belief, however.
That is law in herdbeasts ( who have System-1 but not the considered-reasoning System-2 ) & in humans ( who, in theory have both systems, but we work to eradicate considered-reasoning, preferring ideology/prejudice, .. rather completely ), both.
Speaking from my own experiences.... (i'm diagnosed with autism and high-IQ)
People seem to read vulnerabilities they cant really place as general mental fucked upness. For example, I struggle when two people talk to me at the same time, or ask me several questions at once. Have a couple of these incidents happen and some people start treating me as if I'm missing a chromosome. I think when people are dealing with something thy know little about, some would rather fill the blanks with ignorance and stereotypes. You could invite them to learn more, but also... meh, their loss.
People who are familiar with autism, or being overloaded on info... they often automatically slow down, ask about my challenges, ect.
I've learned some tricks to demand respect though, you can't expect everyone to be sensible. I have an elaborate vocabulaire, and though I prefer to talk informal, sometimes talking slightly more formal than the person in front of you can keep them on their toes.
Another direction, I also like to deploy, is to just play the dumdum they think I am. It means less expectations, less bullshit. And honestly, nothing is more satisfying when halfway trough the year they find out you know the source material better than they do.
Another thing that has really worked for me is to surround myself with people who are eager to get to know me as an individual. In time this has also helped me grow the confidence to convince or even demand other people to understand how I work even if it originally isn't there priority.
Hope his helps
Bit late to this post, but whenever you're on a bureaucratic process where declaring that you're on the spectrum doesn't have any specific advantage that outweights everything else, you just don't bring it up, because you may come across idiots or even bad regulation.
I've already known a couple people in my country who were denied their driver's license because they mentioned their Asperger diagnosis. I didn't mention it, and when I ran for the driving test, while the examiner was somewhat nervous that I wasn't constantly trying to drive over the speed limit like everyone else, he appreciated that I was always actively looking in all directions to be extra cautious against any potential danger.
So a lot of people will explain it with many very interesting psychological and sociological theories on discrimination and shits But to summarize it all :
they are really fucking dumb
They can't understand two thirds of the shits happening so when faced with something new they simplify it by interpreting it as close to the closest thing they understand. Except they are fucking dumb so the closest thing they understand is miles away from the thing they are discovering. Therefore when they encounter autism, they understand it like the closest thing they actually know, which is children or more likely stupid and they talk to children like they are dumb.
Now the other things that lead them to that is that despite being world class idiot their job is to evaluate people so considering they don't understand most things they require even more simplification.
TL;DR : tell them you know damn well they're not supposed to require an eval for autist so you're gonna sue them, should shut them the fuck up
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