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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by edge@hexbear.net to c/technology@hexbear.net

Shown is a man, woman, girl family, but every 2 adult 1 child family now shows the same, with similar icons for the other numbers of each.

Actually it looks like Google still represents women and girls in the new ugly icons, but man and person (gender neutral) show up the same as do boy and child (gender neutral).

This is literally no steps forward, many steps back. Especially for Apple, wiping out both sexual orientation and gender representation. And Google conflating male and gender neutral is pretty bad too. I see no good reason for this change, not even a profit-motivated reason. I think it might have something to do with representing race. i.e. a silhouette is more race neutral than yellow. But they could just support mixed race families instead.

Microsoft on the other hand supports all the possible family combinations of both gender and skin tone, which Apple and Google never supported. Here's the built in Windows 11 tool to make a family. Each person's gender and skin tone can be changed.

Tangent: on the other hand, Microsoft refuses to support country flag emojis for some reason which is annoying.

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[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago
[-] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago
[-] hello_hello@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

It never clicked in my head that firefox meant an actual fox and my child brain always saw the logo as some burning orb.

still the best firefox derivative logo though.

[-] edge@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

tbf, the last one is the logo for the "brand" of Firefox. The browser itself still has the second to last logo.

[-] Lysergid@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 months ago

Apple’s 2024 is most accurate. We are all pawns.

[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago

We are all faceless newel posts in Tim Apple's grand 5D parcheesi game

[-] arymandias@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is the natural progression of symbolic languages, just like how the ox hieroglyph slowly transformed into an ‘a’, so too will emoji’s evolve into more abstract symbolism representing broader concepts.

[-] MelianPretext@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

Except we already have the conclusive natural ontological symbol for "family" right here: ☭

[-] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 months ago

The year is 2224, all of humanity is fractured between two factions: those who write in Emoji (Traditional) and those who write in Emoji (Simplified)

[-] blakeus12@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

woke did this maddened

[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

For posterity, I present to you my current store of family icons on Android before the update hits:

👨‍👦👨‍👦‍👦👨‍👧👨‍👧‍👦👨‍👨‍👦👨‍👨‍👦‍👦👨‍👨‍👧👩‍👦👩‍👦‍👦👩‍👧👩‍👧‍👦👩‍👧‍👧👩‍👩‍👦👩‍👩‍👦‍👦👨‍👨‍👧‍👦👨‍👨‍👧‍👧👨‍👩‍👦👨‍👩‍👦‍👦👨‍👩‍👧👨‍👩‍👧‍👦👨‍👩‍👧‍👧👩‍👩‍👧👩‍👩‍👧‍👦👩‍👩‍👧‍👧👪👨‍👧‍👧🧓🧓🏻🧓🏼🧓🏽🧓🏾🧓🏿👵👵🏻👵🏼👵🏽👵🏾👵🏿👴👴🏻👴🏼👴🏽👴🏾👴🏿

That was everything listed under "family".

[-] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

some chud is gonna throw a fit about this

[-] dkt@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago

Tangent: on the other hand, Microsoft refuses to support country flag emojis for some reason which is annoying.

I think it's so that they don't have to make politically motivated decisions on which flags to include

[-] edge@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There’s no decision to make, the flags are based on ISO two letter country codes, so just include all valid country codes. For country level disputes like China/Taiwan and Palestine/Israel, both sides are represented. For civil wars like Yemen they just go with the UN recognized government’s flag (🇦🇫 the Afghanistan flag is still the Islamic Republic across all vendors rather than the Islamic Emirate). Apple and Google do that and afaik they haven’t gotten any backlash.

[-] dkt@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago

Apple does block the Taiwan emoji in China, though I haven't heard of Google doing anything similar so maybe it's just an Apple thing

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago

You know The Giver where people were purposefully medicated to not see color as to maintain "social harmony"? yea

[-] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] edge@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

Yeah no. Gender and sexuality are clearly quite important to most people, cis or trans. Representation is good.

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