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submitted 1 year ago by skhayfa@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

The fight over water is nothing new on Maui. But the impact on the county’s ability to battle fires is coming clear.

With wildfires ravaging West Maui on Aug. 8, a state water official delayed the release of water that landowners wanted to help protect their property from fires. The water standoff played out over much of the day and the water didn’t come until too late.

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[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago

Now the conflict includes opponents who do not want water to be used to fight fires, the governor said.

The opinions and desires of these 'opponents' is entirely irrelevant when it comes to emergency resources. The lives of those in immediate danger are far far more important than you getting to water your god damn plants.

[-] flipthetube@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Not sure how well this would work for Hawaiian cities, but San Francisco utilizes a network of cisterns in intersections that are ready to go if needed.

https://www.kqed.org/news/11622273/what-are-the-mysterious-brick-circles-in-san-francisco-intersections

Old tech, but I’ve always found it a pretty brilliant idea.

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 6 points 1 year ago

That is for sure really cool!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

San Francisco has a big historical reason for doing that though.

[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 4 points 1 year ago

In this new era, almost EVERY city has a reason to put those or similar measures in. Fires are only getting more widespread and intense as areas dry out more and more and experience record heat. It's only a matter of time until another one threatens a major urban area.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I don't disagree, but they have the benefit of hindsight. And politicians are not very good at seeing reality until after the fact.

[-] gornar@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago
[-] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago
[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago

Seems like pretty clear-cut manslaughter at the least.

If you reduced the scale to one person on fire and someone standing next to him blocking access to a hose, it's undeniable that one party knowingly caused the other's death.

[-] donuts@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Uh... fighting over water... on an... island...?

[-] RandomStickman@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago
[-] MadBabs@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It's why Hawaiians are constantly saying to tourists to stop coming.

[-] Ilikepornaddict@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately their economy would collapse if that happened. Tourism drives that state.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Just tell tourists to BYB.

[-] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago

They would probably do better to invite tourists and use the money that comes in to build desalination plants. Israel has more than proven that any country with a coastline can have all the water they need, ten years ago everyone was predicting they'd be in water wars but now they've got such a good supply they're selling it to neighbours. Even easier for a state with so much available geothermal.

[-] thann@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

According to the sources, Manuel wanted West Maui Land to get permission from a taro, or kalo, farm located downstream from the company’s property.

We are sooo fucked

[-] thann@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

We can't save your house because the companies that own everything are fighting over which one of them owns the water

[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I feel like you could use salt water to fight fires and keep the fresh water for drinking.

[-] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

That would be actually worse than letting the fire burn. You would absolutely ruin the land for plants for quite a while.

[-] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Natural fire break.

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

Humanity at work 🤦🤦🤦🤦

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