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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by ForkBombRaja@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net

I'm about our of the loop, please help.

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[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 64 points 8 months ago

People saw CSAM and horse porn on his desktop while he was streaming.

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 58 points 8 months ago

He got even more conclusively outed as a pedophile than he already was. There was a thread about it here the other day, but it seems it got removed for not being in the dunk tank.

[-] ForkBombRaja@hexbear.net 32 points 8 months ago

I mean it's rather well known he's kinda a creep to kids, but what happened to expose him even more?

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 47 points 8 months ago

He inadvertently opened or tabbed into his porn folder on stream.

[-] ForkBombRaja@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Knowing Vaush I'm pretty sure that was full of red flags and not in the good way. Ty, that answered my question.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago

I don’t think it was any real photos because we’d be hearing about his termination and arrest right now. I think it was just Loki stuff because 4chan pedos tracked down the images and found them tagged as such

[-] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 39 points 8 months ago

He accidentally opened his loli folder on stream.

[-] solitaire@infosec.pub 6 points 8 months ago

Yeah I was about to say, I could have sworn it was already common knowledge he was a pedo and all around creep.

[-] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 43 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

it's fuggin crazy how many guys don't bother to hide their removed folders on their PC/smartphone/work computer or wipe the removed stains off their keyboards before trying to show me whatever shitty novelty website or yt video I didn't want to see.

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 45 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What gets me is that it's just sloppy af. Not to defend Va*sh or anything but if my career was as a streamer I'd have my gaming rig used as my public-facing PC and I'd put my personal stuff on an entirely different computer because I would want containment and it's just not worth the risk of leaking sensitive or personal stuff online.

Ultimately this is representative of Va*sh's attitude to OpSec in a broader sense. Anyone who is a serious activist will give OpSec its due consideration and upon hearing about this situation they'd immediately write Va*sh off as a liability because he doesn't even put in the bare minimum to prevent leaks.

When it comes to pen testing and related stuff, the weakest link is always the human. Va*sh could have used all the encryption in the world to hide his shameful porn habits from public view and it wouldn't be worth a damn because encryption doesn't prevent carelessness in the end-user. Vaush is a prominent figure and it can be assumed that he's got something of a target on his back (not enough of one, if you ask me). It's safe to assume that people have tried to hack his computer before and that they will do so in the future. Why you'd put all of your tax info on a primary target for hackers is completely beyond me.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 31 points 8 months ago

It's so fucking easy when you're as rich as he is from sub money to just have two PCs too like holy shit.

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

this

I mean for fucks sake, it's FREE to make a SEPARATE GODDAMN WINDOWS USER PROFILE ABDHAHDVAHSGABSGABAVSVSBSBSHSHA

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You don't even need to do that. You just need to create a second Windows account, dump all your porn shit in C:\Users\$porn-account\Documents, and hide C:\Users\$porn-account\ so you can't see the folder on your normal account. It's virtually impossible to get exposed on stream unless you actively type the directory path of the porn. Even having $porn-account as an option for what profile to log in as isn't that big of a deal since the streaming software is behind your streaming account. The only real way to get exposed would be if you first log in to the porn account and sign in to your streaming account without signing out of your porn account first. If you hover your cursor where you would log out/shutdown/restart the PC, people would know that you're logged in to another account. But even then it only exposes you as someone who enjoys porn and that's only if you make it really obvious your porn account is a porn account (ie a Windows account called Porn). If you use an entirely innocuous name like your real name, most people would just think that Windows account is for your personal life.

I really don't understand how people are still being busted with porn on stream in 2024.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 21 points 8 months ago

Who has a porn folder in 2024?

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[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 43 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Sidenote: It's mind-boggling how obsessed the Japanese are with both little girls and little boys in their drawn hentai, and how normalized it seems to be over there. I follow Hololive and a bunch of the girls are just openly like "Oh yeah, I'm really into shotacon stuff" which is drawn porn of prepubescent boys. cringe

Even when you try to look at the non-loli waifus, you'll inevitably stumble upon art that's like "here's what this character would look like if she was 8 year old and naked" blob-stop

[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 23 points 8 months ago

I don't think normal Japanese people like this garbage. I guess it's more a weird otaku thing, and I think the Japanese parliament has recently created more laws against it. But unfortunately, I doubt they'll be enforced, the US doesn't enforce their own laws on this.

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago

I think it's worth noting, a lot of the most popular anime's in Japan are fairly boring normie slice of life shit or Mecha stuff. A lot of the really weird Pervy crap is more popular in the west than domestically. Not saying otaku culture in Japan isn't creepy and gross in its own right, but it is a niche subculture over there that just happens to have amplified popularity abroad and so ends up looking reflective of Japanese culture more than it actually is.

Japan is in actuality, a fairly boring normal country.

[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago

Japan is in actuality, a fairly boring normal country.

I wouldn't call Japan boring, there's plenty to see and do there, and Japanese food is very good too. But for some people who think Japan is just about anime/manga and bideo gaems, they may be in for a shock when they actually visit Japan or talk to a real Japanese person.

Back in school, I used to have some Japanese immigrants as friends, they were pretty chill people, usually never talked about anime or manga, they knew the more popular ones. But they did really enjoyed fighting games and talking about sports.

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

Yeah from what I understand manga is kinda like comic books here. Most people are familiar with them, it's not really even weird for people, especially younger people, to be kind of into them and read a decent amount, but the turbo fans are considered weirdos.

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago

Plenty to see and do, including some number of museums connected to the history of the country's left!

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

Apparently, to the extent that some Japanese women show interest in foreign men, one of the reasons is "oh nice he probably doesn't watch fucking cartoons"

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

Probably not the smartest logic there since most western men who visit Japan are huge fucking weebs

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

I think probably about as many are tired businessmen and dads on family vacations

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

dads on family vacations

Idk how many American families go on vacation to Japan unless they're nerds?

Japan like knows this, they literally have stands to sell tickets to the Studio Ghibli museum in the Tokyo airport cuz they know that's what tourists who come to Japan are gonna wanna do.

Mind you I say all this as a guy who rather likes anime himself, there ain't no hate here.

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago

I'm not in Amerikkka rn but I can at least say that one of the staff guys at my jawbbbb skillzzz classss plans to go to Japan soon, and he's being real weird (read: kimochi-warui) about the geisha. But I guess he's more granddad age than dad age, anyway...

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[-] Jenniferrr@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago

What the fuck

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Because he showed his illegal lolicon child sexual abuse folder on stream, along wirh horse porn.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This is correct.

And it's not an exaggeration. It doesn't need exaggerating, that's literally exactly what he did.

This event even has a good page to point to for it now: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/vaush-opens-porn-folder-on-stream

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And lolicon is illegal stateside due to some Bush Jr era laws on pornography and CSAM. He could legitimately end up being legally prosecuted for this.

If he doesn't, he's basically a confirmed fed.

[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago

No shot people are getting prosecuted for lolicon porn, it's way too widespread.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

As of the PROTECT ACT of 2003, any obscene images depicting minors including virtual images, and thus lolicon, are illegal in the United States. Most countries have obscenity laws that also make it illegal or classify it under CSAM. One notable exception is Germany, where it is not illegal as it does not depict real people.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This doesn't seem to be enforced very broadly considering just how widespread and available the material is. If these laws were enforced, 4chan would have been obliterated 20 years ago.

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 30 points 8 months ago

The good timeline, where Bush arrested and liquified every 4chan user and then didn't get re-elected because they were load bearing pedophiles.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I mean 4chan have helped various militaries carry out airstrikes in Syria, including against US backed "moderate rebels". I have no idea how that website is still up and running. Fed run website used to incriminate and potentially blackmail internet weirdos?

[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago

I think "laws about anime porn aren't enforced" is a more likely explanation than "if someone is possessing or distributing loli porn without getting arrested it means they're a fed"

I mean, is there anyone who is getting prosecuted for it?

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago

You're forgetting that laws in the US are only real when and how the court system decides to interpret them, and this is one of those "judicial precedent/interpretation is much narrower than the common sense reading of the law would suggest" situations. Obscenity laws are something the US really likes putting down as law, and that the courts for the past century or so have similarly liked throwing out. It's like how the current crop of anti-porn state laws are considered unenforceable and expected to be formally struck down.

In this case, IIRC their interpretation of the law is that "virtual images" means something along the lines of photoshops of real people or what was at the time a hypothetical (with AI generation this is no longer hypothetical, but I've only heard about one case where that was a) more in line with the photoshopping interpretation, and b) tacked onto a huge list of other, much more serious charges) rendering or drawing indistinguishable from a photograph. A cartoon that cannot be mistaken for a real person doesn't count, per the courts.

That's why it's so widespread and purging it from places comes down to threatening advertiser revenue or payment processing, and isn't as simple as asking the feds to go after a server owner or domain name.

So at most he could be raided by the feds for it in the hopes that they'd find something actually illegal, but the most likely scenario is they did that long ago and turned him into an asset.

I have no idea how that website is still up and running. Fed run website used to incriminate and potentially blackmail internet weirdos?

It was bought up by some Japanese oligarch that uses it to push right wing agitprop, crypto shit, and their own merchandising stuff IIRC. I think there was a big effortpost about it here a few years ago that broke down exactly what was going on there, but I'm not sure.

[-] GarfGirl@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Wtf happened in 2005 or whatever that made people search Vaush porn folder?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Probably a data error caused by a change in the way they interpret searches? I bet that's just picking up "folder" or "porn". Can't be to do with vaush

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[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 8 months ago

In response to the horse imagery, Vaush said that he wanted to have intercourse with a woman as a horse.

Bruhhhhhhhhhgg

[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

claiming he thought they were women with "short stack" builds. He compares the characters to goblins.

???????

[-] GarfGirl@hexbear.net 38 points 8 months ago

He accidentally opened the "to be sorted" folder for his porn images on stream and there was loli and beastiality porn in there, also apparently some of it was ai generated so ai bazingas he's previously offended are acting like hypocrisy about AI images is worse than the loli horse porn stuff

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

How long did this greaseball leave his porn folder open on screen for that people could discern multiple different genres AND that some of it was AI generated miyazaki-laugh

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

Apparently like half a second, and people were able to find all the images via the thumbnails

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago

Honestly the type of person who has a to-be-sorted porn folder at all probably has loli horse porn on it

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 30 points 8 months ago

regression to the mean, it was blissfully quiet for a few months there

[-] DayOfDoom@hexbear.net 27 points 8 months ago

You don't wanna' be in the loop.

[-] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 21 points 8 months ago

We had suppressed discussion of him for too long. It is only natural that the topic would fester in silence before eventually bubbling up back into our sights.

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago

I am mercifully unaware of this.

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