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Ben Shapiro Is a Rapper Now Because That’s What 2024 Deserves (www.thedailybeast.com)

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[-] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 58 points 9 months ago

Five years from now, you look out upon the charred ruins of what used to be your neighborhood. You remember this song. That was it. That was the moment that the stupid became terminal.

[-] IronpigsWizard@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

"YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! AH, DAMN YOU! GOD! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!"

[-] davemeech@lemmy.ca 52 points 9 months ago

+1 on the "don't engage him or this" gang.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 8 points 9 months ago

Agreed. Engaging trolls lends implicit credibility to their platform, and they have no requirement to reciprocate that credibility.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago

facts don’t care about your feelings

Isn’t he religious or something?

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

He's a republican, so the shirt is more ironic because they don't know how to care more about facts than their feelings

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago

more so because the design looks loosely based on the DARE anti-drugs campaign which was also based entirely on feelings based responses and not data

[-] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 4 points 9 months ago

He's the "Pope of the Jews" according to Majority Report

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

How the fuck is that meant to make sense whatsoever?!

[-] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 28 points 9 months ago

Nope. Not giving that douchebag a view.

[-] A7thStone@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

It's number one on iTunes charts right now. How much effort did they have to put in to game that system?

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 18 points 9 months ago

Hate listening is listening.

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Ouch.. this hurts because it's true.. I'll probably go through a reaction video just to deny views.

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Who thought those things would ever fill an important function..

[-] Aabbcc@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

Hate listening drops off fast though because you only hate listen once

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

$$$$$

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 20 points 9 months ago

He's done it before. The answer is to stop watching it.

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I feel like we need to do something more.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 9 months ago

Viable options to stop Ben Shapiro exercising his Constitutional right to be a cringey cryptofascist:

1: Ignore him. His model of conservative activism depends on the left's impotent outrage to signal boost his message.

2: Violence

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

The song, if you dare. I couldn't make it past 30 seconds.

https://twitter.com/catchupfeed/status/1750946830043783625

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 36 points 9 months ago

Can someone please pirate and share this somewhere that the monster won't get monetized?

[-] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah, I want to click that just for the cringe factor, but I just can't justify the triple threat of monetization for Elon, Tom McDonald, and Ben Shapiro. That's like the unholy trinity of white fragility.

[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

If you watch it on freetube or newpipe you can take some pleasure from the fact that it's at googles expense.

[-] dinozaur@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 9 months ago

Would putting it behind nitter help?

link

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago

Here's a reaction video with the full song...

https://youtu.be/aZuOn3fIo18

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I got to Shapiro. Rough.

Also, wtf is that first rappers name, dog whistle?

[-] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

Tom McDonald, he's a canadian alt-right grifter. Don't waste your time learning anything else about him lol

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Done and done

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Not today, Satan! 😂

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Yo fuck you I feel smeared with shit just seeing this here

[-] jimbo@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Don't give this twat attention.

[-] renzev@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This is fake, b*n sh*piro doesn't believe that rap even counts as music https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8zeiFF1SNCY

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I will stick with 2pac and Eminem instead. No thanks.

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

No. Tell me it's not this. I can only take so fucking much.

[-] EvilLootbox@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

[-] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

His WAP-word cover is way better.

[+] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -9 points 9 months ago

It's bad enough when white people who don't hate black people appropriate black culture...

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

He's a douche, don't give him the satisfaction of your tears.

But for the love of everything that is sacred, stop with the cultural appropriation nonsense.

It's music used to express oneselves. All music is a mixture of many different predecessors and has/will evolved into new styles for new groups... Culture is a shared experience even by the "out group" you seem to be defining.

The cultural appropriation rhetoric only serves to alienate people that might have been or could have been allies, the people that you end up accusing will only revel in the accusation.

[+] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -7 points 9 months ago

It's not about music.

It's about a racist guy using music that was invented by black people.

Shapiro claimed that "Colin Powell was an affirmative action general".[28] He also decided that "[t]he Obama administration is" using "racism to let black criminals off the hook, justify illegal immigration, hamstring law enforcement across the country, and push redistribution as a solution to supposed continuing discrimination against 'people of color.'" As a result, "[t]he next race war will come not from racist whites, but from racist blacks and Hispanics who feel empowered to act on their racism by an administration that excuses all minority misbehavior."[29]

In a 2018 episode of the Ben Shapiro show, Shapiro tried to argue that assuming all black people are criminals is a reasonable use of group data rather than racism. This included justifying avoiding young black people on the street and hiring no black people if you can't run a background check.[30] No word was given on whether or not he would see it as reasonable to refuse to hire or rent to men because they have a higher violent crime rate than women.

In his "U.S. President Tier Ranking" video, he stated that the Civil Rights Act was wrong because it infringed on the freedoms of private businesses (these "freedoms" being the freedom to discriminate against black people).[31] He has also expressed support for Charles Murray, listing him among a series of conservatives who he claims were unfairly maligned by the rabid Twitter mob.[32]

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ben_Shapiro

So yes, when Ben Shapiro raps, he is appropriating black culture.

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Yes, Yes, Shapiro is a douche, we agreed on that there is no need to copy-pasta his "best of". Do not give him clicks (someone else commented, hate listening is still listening)

The point was and still is that the "appropriation" rhetoric is such weak sauce that is hurts the other points you are making instead of helping it. A lot of people will read your comment and might even agree, and when they read "cultural appropriation" they immediately dismiss everything you wrote. Culture is shared not owned. Even things like rap are experienced by everyone (albeit in different ways, eliciting different reactions and feelings) there is no owner. Just like the whole hair braid discussions.. useless..

But fine you go ahead and yell into the void.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

I was going to make a substantive reply to this, but I don't think the rudeness at the end there was warranted, so I won't.

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I was merely trying to point out that all the other things Shapiro is and says are way more damaging and heinous and they fall flat if intermixed with these points. Not to be rude. At that I failed and I appologise.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Okay, fair enough on the rudeness.

My point wasn't to say in any way that any white person rapping is culturally appropriating.

I am saying when racists take expressions of a culture that they are racist against and uses them, then it is cultural appropriation.

Minstrel music involved playing folk songs sung by black people, accompanied by a banjo, which was a traditional instrument of black people, sung in a fake black vernacular. They were also in blackface, but the blackface was not what made it appropriation. The "this thing you created is ours now too, you N---s" that made it appropriation.

And this is no different.

Here are some of the lyrics to Shapiro's rap. They are absolutely done in a 'black' vernacular:

Let's look at the stats, I've got the facts

My money like Lizzo, my pockets are fat

Homie, I'm epic, don't be a WAP

Dawg, it's a yarmulke, homie, no cap

Shapiro doesn't talk like that normally. Ben Shapiro doesn't call people 'Homie' or 'Dawg.' That's Shapiro trying to sound "black." That is textbook appropriation.

So I'm sorry if people take me saying 'cultural appropriation' to mean 'Ben Shapiro is a white person doing music invented by black people,' but that is not what appropriation means, so I don't think that is on me.

[-] PopcornTin@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Dawg, it's a yarmulke, homie, no cap

That's pretty funny actually.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It’s bad enough when white people who don’t hate black people appropriate black culture…

My point wasn’t to say in any way that any white person rapping is culturally appropriating. I am saying when racists take expressions of a culture that they are racist against and uses them, then it is cultural appropriation.

It's your original comment that's inconsistent with this. Maybe it's not what you meant, but it reads like you're saying "it's bad enough when white people appropriate culture, but it's worse when racists do it"

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I would call it racist, double-dog racist even maybe. I understand your viewpoint, I just think the cultural appropriation angle takes away from the point you are making.

Allyough he is doing it with the clown world guy and his chosen vernacular is rap.. so maybe this explains the medium.

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