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Manifest v3 is Worse than I Thought (tube.kockatoo.org)

submitted 9 months ago by ozoned@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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A great video about the Manifest v3 and how Google is trying to make you view ads.

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[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 164 points 9 months ago

Everyone losing their minds over this like Firefox doesn't exist.

Stop using Chrome.

The reason this is even a big problem is because everyone piled on Google's browser despite all the obvious reasons that wasn't gonna be a good idea on the long term.

I never understood why anybody thought a company – whose principal business is advertising and data mining – wouldn't eventually rug pull everyone like this with their browser as soon as it hit critical mass for market share.

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 20 points 9 months ago

Because there weren't any great options at the time. Firefox has gotten better, but at that time Chrome was just super fast and lightweight in comparison to all the competitors.

[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 7 points 9 months ago

enshitification 101

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 124 points 9 months ago

get firefox and ublock origin.

its so fucking simple, why do people have such weird attachment to chrome??

[-] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 18 points 9 months ago

Agreed on using Firefox/LibreWolf and uBlock Origin, I love that combination. I think the thing is that Google Chrome is much faster than Firefox on Android phones (I don't mind, I hardly ever use mobile to browse), and long time habits can be hard to break for some people.

[-] ziixe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 months ago

Yup, can say that firefox is quite a bit slower on android (but honestly it's still quite ok, unless it decides to loop loading the page, or it bugs out in another way, at least on my phone it's quite prone to breaking, for comparison brave is really a bit faster than Firefox

[-] admiralteal@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Way faster when you consider time spent loading and navigating around all the fucking ads. The mobile web without adblock is a dumpster fire of the highest order.

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[-] jmp242@sopuli.xyz 7 points 9 months ago

Not so much chrome, but many browsers (like my favorite Vivaldi) are chromium based. I wish they'd just keep uBlock going in the chromium rebuilds, but IDK if that's possible. Seems like it should be to me though.

Also, we switched at work from Firefox because somehow they broke system level updates a few years ago, and nothing I could do was able to figure out why their installer stopped working without first having someone run the uninstall graphically to update to the new version. It would just say Firefox wasn't a valid windows exe till I manually removed it. And even the Mozilla Enterprise list seemed flummoxed. Honestly, I think they should have reverted the installer change, or even just use a standard installer that doesn't have this problem, but hey.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 months ago

This is precisely why I've never found Chromium based browsers to be of much relevance. These are just skins on top of the rendering engine which is the core of the browser and that's entirely controlled by Google. People kept ignoring this and now we're in a situation where Chrome and its derivatives dominate the market to the point where sites no longer care whether they follow W3C specs as long as Chrome renders them. We're now back in pretty much the same situation we were in the days of IE.

It's depressing that people were unable to understand where things were going until Google started doing blatantly evil things. The only thing that was keeping Google in check before was the fact that it was lack of market dominance. Google is an ads company, and there is a huge conflict of interest with them being the gatekeepers to the internet.

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[-] sweet@lemmy.ml 20 points 9 months ago

I wish firefox would just add tab-groups back like chrome has or literally any chrome based browser... Ive tried literally every tab extension in the store and w/e I could find on Github but they all aren't to my liking. They basically all use a side bar. I just want to slide my 100 tabs of manga and obscure programming blogs out of sight lol other than that, firefox is pretty much better in most ways.

[-] stratosfear@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 9 months ago

Windows group tabs. Just open a new window for each task of tabs.

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[-] squid_slime@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

And google will kill its self

[-] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago

Nah, they know what they're doing.

[-] squid_slime@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Wishful thinking on my part tbh, I forget that there is an ecosystem with gmail :/

[-] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 months ago

Yeah and it's kinda hard to get off from that. I'm in the process of switching my 2 gmail accounts to 2 proton ones and it seems that the ProtonMail app's free plan doesn't support multiple emails. Understandable but sad.

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[-] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Good think I don't use chrome.

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[-] 1984@lemmy.today 14 points 9 months ago

I'm interested but I'm not watching 30 minutes of video...

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No problems with the inbuild adblocker in Vivaldi, not even in YouTube (without any ads for me), problems only for Chromiums in which are remaining control and tracking APIs from Google and which are only can use "descaffeinated" Adblockers from the Chrome Store. I can use even direct userscripts in Vivaldi if needed, without the need of Tamper-, Greasy- or Violentmonkey extensions. Vivaldi is a Chromium browser, but Google for the past 9 years has hit its teeth on a rock in attempts to control it.

[-] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I was a Vivaldi user, like you, until I used Floorp and now I'm a crack addict.

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[-] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

We will kill chrome

[-] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago

I doubt it. Normies love chrome, and the majority of normies don't even know about ad blockers. Chrome will continue unfortunately

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 9 points 9 months ago

Anyone remembers when Chrome was the hot new kid on the block and we all converted the "normies" to it because it was so much better than IE? We're reaping what we sowed.

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[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago

I thought they cancelled manifest v3 after the backlash?

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

They never do. They wait for the backlash to be over, change a few things and try it again.

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