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Everyone losing their minds over this like Firefox doesn't exist.
Stop using Chrome.
The reason this is even a big problem is because everyone piled on Google's browser despite all the obvious reasons that wasn't gonna be a good idea on the long term.
I never understood why anybody thought a company – whose principal business is advertising and data mining – wouldn't eventually rug pull everyone like this with their browser as soon as it hit critical mass for market share.
Because there weren't any great options at the time. Firefox has gotten better, but at that time Chrome was just super fast and lightweight in comparison to all the competitors.
enshitification 101
Firefox exists, but it has its issues, it's def not so great at memory optimization. It will regularly crash on me once I go beyond around 100 tabs regardless of how much system resources I throw at it (Seriously, it did the same thing on a 4 socket server with 512GBs RAM)
And starts getting sluggish when I even start approaching it. Chrome otoh, reserves a lot of RAM for itself, but at least it can manage it well into the hundreds of tabs I throw at it
Forgive me, but if there ever was a niche scenario this is it.
You're the kind of user software developers dread.
Whyy
Since you are sharing anecdotes, let me join.
For me FF has always been extremely stable, and I too regularly keep 100+ tabs open, on much more limited system resources. It is so stable that I've completely disabled history saving, and if there is something I want to read later I just keep the tab open. Never had an issue.
Tree Style Tabs also pushed me to have many tabs, because now I can actually organize those that I've opened and find them later.
I have the opposite experience. I easily can have as many tabs at times and I've seen chrome use over 10gb of ram and fully lock at times. I switched to Firefox for that reason and others and it performs much better with that many tabs open. Most ram I've seen it using is about 6gb. Minimal and equivalent plugins in both. I've never had firefox crash. This across multiple computers. I now have uninstalled chrome everywhere...
Please leave this conversation, because you're probably the only user who goes over 100 tabs. Normal people have about 10 open just for your reference
I routinely have more than 100 tabs open. Firefox doesn't crash for me or use much RAM. Many tabs is a normal use-case and Firefox working worse than alternatives in such scenarios is a failing of Firefox.
But again, mine handles it fine. So potentially OP should try again with an up to date Firefox.
Can refute. I regularly get up to 200.
Apparently it's super common among people with ADHD.