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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 96 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mark owns fatburger franchises and he and his family are BARELY scraping by... They only took two European vacations last year and their kid that just turned 16 had to get a tesla instead of electric Porsche? It's just not sustainable and this ASSAULT needs to stop or hard working vampires like Mark and his loved ones suffer.

Edit: oh, that's weird... Autocorrect formed "families" into "vampires".

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

I think it works

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 95 points 2 years ago (12 children)

They really offered 2 possible outcomes:

  • Increase prices
  • Fire people

Why not just . . . make less money?

The increase was $4. The article kept using percentages to make it seem like some big scary change, but the increase is 1 meal per hour per worker. I'm pretty sure any half decent restaurant can handle that extra $4 per worker hourly.

But no, the solution is clearly to just nuke your vacation policy so you can save $1000 per worker per year. Yeah okay.

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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Boohoo, a capitalist that owns 4 restaurants is passing the costs of labor on to their customers and is still blaming us for it. Sounds like the playbook of an abuser.

If paying people what they are worth causes businesses to fail, then that is just Daddy Capitalism working right?

[–] Damdy@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For sure, record breaking profits never get passed on to the customer, if anything it pushes companies to see how much they can squeeze from nothing.

But hard times always fall on the customer.

Greed is evil.

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[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Imagine this guy, Marcus Walberg, having the sales volume that comes with operating 4 restaurants in LA and saying "doing business in California has never been more strained" LMFAO.

Sell the properties cheap, then, I'll take a loan for that lot no problem! I'd open a Bakery that sells Yeast Donuts and my specialty Meal in a Focaccia (Vegan Options Available).

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

"Eliminating employee vacation"

His workers had an average 48 hours of yearly vacation time. That is not vacation time.

What trash

[–] MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com 12 points 2 years ago

At $20 that’s less than a thousand dollars a year.

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I'm shocked they had any vacation time at all! I've never heard of anyone in the food industry (besides managers) that get any PTO. I'm also surprised how much PTO they get! Teachers only get 40 hours a year.

[–] Raz@lemm.ee 40 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Lol, 48 hours of paid time off. I don't even work full time and get 120 hours, by law. Fuck the US.

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[–] MrMeanJavaBean@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (17 children)

If a business cannot survive paying its employees a liveable wage then it should not exist. Businesses that do not pay a livable wage but can afford to are exploiting its employees.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Imagine thinking the employees are the entitled ones when running a business and feeling entitled to their labor at your price.

I'm sorry, who's the entitled one? Those businesses should 100% not exist. It's called having a shitty business model.

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[–] licherally@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

eliminating employee vacation

Man shut the fuck up, the only employee that got a vacation was you numbnuts

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Walberg said he used to offer paid time off to eligible workers. The average worker earned about 48 hours of paid time off, capped at 72 hours a year, he said.

Jesus fucking Christ. Shit like that has been illegal for a century where I live

[–] licherally@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

America is a dystopia unlike any other, where we smile and fuck each other over and then say "hey this is just the way it is!"

I hate it here.

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Wait, what?

Americans only get 3 days off a year? What?

[–] HessiaNerd@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

48 hrs / 8 hrs/day = 6 days Americans get what their employees give them, in this case he is saying it is going to be zero.

I myself get ~~8.3 hrs / pay period (2x month) so around 24 days per year. That is considered high. Would be even better if I could really use them without feeling guilty.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Lmao 24 days over here is mandated by law, and some people get even more.

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[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

"how will I buy my next four franchises if I have to pay my employees a living wage?"

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[–] kittyjynx@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

In N Out in California pays $20 or more an hour starting wages, their burgers are (IIRC) less than $5, and they still make a shit ton of money.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Eliminating employee vacation, as though he was already offering them some extravagant amount of paid time off. And what does he think cutting hours will accomplish? You either have enough people working the store, or you don't. Running a skeleton crew and overworking your people isn't going to be sustainable, not when literally every other fast food place is paying at least as much as you and they have choices.

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Defending scamming as a business model isn’t a business model.

[–] ExfilBravo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

He eliminated employee vacation and then used it as a flex. Greed is gross y'all.

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[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you’re in L.A. Make sure to boycott Fatburger.

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[–] Pepsi@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

TLDR: “Hey, everybody. I'm a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and my butt smells, and I like to kiss my own butt.”

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago

Ok, then show us your books or I'll assume you are full of shit

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I REALLY want to see the last few years of profit margins that these asshats are earning that are so vital to maintain that they are “forced” to pass the financial hit on to their workers (who are doing ALL the actual work). "If the minimum wage goes up, they either have to increase prices so that they can cover the increased expenses for labor, or they're going to have to consolidate their labor and let people go," Lederman told BI. Thanks Lederman, you tone deaf douchnozzle. Why can’t they earn slightly less profits so everyone can, I dunno, live their fucking lives?

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[–] Really_long_toes@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Good, pay a livable wage and ditch tips

[–] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The paid vacation he's eliminating was capped at 72hrs per year. He warns that high schoolers will have a tough time competing with more valuable employees, but this is due to the wage increase only applying to fast food. Also, the big layoffs in in-house delivery are similarly due to the narrow scope of the law which excludes gig workers.

"Landlords won't lower their rents"-- these things take time.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

“Landlords won’t lower their rents”-- these things take time.

For sure. A market correction on landlords require businesses leaving the property and then the landlords defaulting their loans to the bank. But no matter what that still needs to happen, because an economy where we value parasitic capital over paying labor a living wage is fundementally broken.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

Oh no! What will those poor employees do now that they can work at literally any fast food chain for $20/hr!

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

My guess with guys like this is they're so mad because they're living beyond their means. How can someone with 4 restaurants be living about their means? Cuz they're dreaming of being obscenely wealthy rather than just moderately and buy to live like they are. Multiple homes when they should reasonably (as in percentage of wealth, not that it's actually reasonable) have 1 summer cottage, a Lambo when maybe he should drive a Lexus. Stuff like that

If the minimum wage goes up, he might suffer from a restaurant going under, and the debt from that might just sink his entire paper yatch.

[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Hope this dude goes under and never recovers.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Friendly reminder that the "restaurants have razor thin margins!" is a lie. Their margins might seem slim, but doing huge amounts of sales means big money.

[–] doingless@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You've got to be wildly popular for that to work though. I've run about two dozen restaurants. The ones that are always packed make good margins. Many are razor thin.

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago

The risk in running a restaurant is exactly this. Sometimes good businesses just can’t support themselves. Their employees need to earn enough to live and the owners need to earn enough to keep the business afloat. You can’t have the latter without the former so if your costs are too high, you have to close. No one deserves to run a business and the food world is full of the absolute best ideas and people that totally bomb.

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[–] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

Down goes neoliberalism. Wages go up and so does business whenever minimum wage goes up.

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