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[–] HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For anyone who wants to do this, use Kill Windows Update. It's simple. and it works. There's several million reasons why conventional wisdom demands that you NOT do it, but I don't give a fuck and if you don't either, then this program is for you.

[–] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gotta give this one a try!

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't keep nuclear secrets on my PC, but sometimes I run tasks that take days to process, and Windows updates have fucked me more than once.

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[–] Towerofpain11@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago
[–] Blackout@kbin.social 36 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Do what I do and pull the power. Can't risk M$ putting ads in my explorer

[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

the lengths people will go to not simply use a better OS

[–] Blackout@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man I wish. All my work is CAD and rendering software. None of it works on Linux.

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[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Sledgehammer works too.

[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

That's not the best. Instead hold the power button until the computer turns off.

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[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Should have installed Linux instead

[–] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (12 children)

I do use linux mint for basic stuff, bit I am a complete noob and can’t figure out how to get Altstore on it, not that it matters because it hasn’t been updated in 2 years for Linux

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[–] MxM111@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You do not need to update Linux?

[–] moody@lemmings.world 30 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Without intending to circlejerk, the only linux updates that I have encountered that required a reboot were kernel updates, and they don't force a reboot, they just don't apply until you do. And when you do update the kernel, the update is downloaded and set up without interrupting anything. You can just power off when you're done, and next time you power on, it's already updated. None of those "Please wait 5-10 minutes, and don't power off your PC" messages.

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[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Andrew15_5@mander.xyz 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

More like "it's your choice".

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[–] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well you are not forced, much better when trying to manage time or data

[–] tubaruco@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

and you can use the pc while it updates

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point I just accept that my windows desktop is going to reboot itself and update itself every fucking night. I used to be able to leave it on for months at a time only rebooting when I felt like it and had prepared all of my open projects to be rebooted.

Now I do those projects on my Linux PC, which has to be a separate PC now because the windows updates completely screw up dual booting. Microsoft is such a shit show, I would probably only turn on that PC on the weekends except I need Windows for work.

[–] lunarul@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I never shut down or restart my computer. Then some mornings I find that Windows decided to automatically restart my computer anyway. I lost a lot of unsaved notes that way.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (7 children)

That's a you problem. Don't blame windows for shitty practices.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

To be fair, it would also be highly distruptive if you let the computer run overnight to finish some long running job and Windows decides it's rebootin' time. The point is: the OS shouldn't decide for you to reboot.

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[–] explodicle@local106.com 12 points 1 year ago

Like using Windows

[–] orangeboats@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Ackshually you still can blame Windows for not supporting live updates.

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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

… why exactly are you leaving unsaved work open on your PC and expecting it to be there the next day? And it seems it’s intentional? Think of all the things that could lose the work apart from an update. A power outage, a brownout, a failed PC component; memory corruption, and more.

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[–] InputZero@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm sorry that you've lost so much work. Although it's kind of irresponsible to leave unsaved work open overnight. Perhaps you could look into applications that have an autosave feature? Alternativly if your workflow permits it do your work on the cloud?

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You're the reason Microsoft has to force it on the rest of us.

Everyone would still be able to shut down without updating, if people actually rebooted once in a while when Windows asked. Instead of leaving it in a perpetual sleep cycle of multiple years, and then blaming Microsoft when things go tits up.

At least the Pro version is still able to do so, since then the user can blame the IT department instead.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I think you mean Enterprise? I don’t believe Pro allows you to completely disable auto updates. Furthest I think you can do is turn them off for at most 2 weeks?

Unless you mean with group policies or disabling services, which I believe is still possible even in Home.

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[–] bestusername@aussie.zone 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Update and Shutdown"... Walk away.

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[–] sweafa@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] MxM111@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What’s power button right? Do power buttons have rights? Or is it right side of power button?

[–] fin@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

The power button has the right to legally shutdown the computer it belongs to

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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm in two minds about this. On the one hand, philosophically, the user should be in charge of their PC, and updates should happen at a time of their choosing.

On the other hand, people are idiots. Especially the type of people who think they know everything but in reality don't. The type that will search for registry hacks or scripts that disable updates, and proceed to live without any security patches, putting not only their own system/data at risk, but others too.

It's probably a necessary evil that MS forces security patches on users.

What isn't so forgivable is them pushing all the other crap on people, or why the updates take so fucking long on shutdown/startup. That's what they need to improve. Far fewer people would care if a reboot after an update was imperceptibly different to any normal startup, like it is on Linux.

MS is a $3tn company. They can achieve this if they want to, but they see spending money on Windows as a waste of money - why improve something when you've already cornered the market? It doesn't benefit them. It doesn't make them more money. Windows is dominant either way, they get their licensing fees either way. Improving Windows damages Microsoft.

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