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No choice was given (lemmy.world)
submitted 9 months ago by fastandcurious@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.ml
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[-] HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 9 months ago

For anyone who wants to do this, use Kill Windows Update. It's simple. and it works. There's several million reasons why conventional wisdom demands that you NOT do it, but I don't give a fuck and if you don't either, then this program is for you.

[-] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

Gotta give this one a try!

[-] thorbot@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago
[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

I don't keep nuclear secrets on my PC, but sometimes I run tasks that take days to process, and Windows updates have fucked me more than once.

[-] thorbot@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Updates patch major security vulnerabilities. It’s cute that you think nuclear secrets existing in your hard drive are the only reason why you should care if your PC is infected with malware but it isn’t. Malware can steal your keystrokes, granting attackers access to your bank accounts and every other place you sign into online. Malware also uses background processes to do bad things, so your “multi-day” processes will take even longer when your computers resources are being hogged by nasty stuff.

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[-] Towerofpain11@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago
[-] Blackout@kbin.social 36 points 9 months ago

Do what I do and pull the power. Can't risk M$ putting ads in my explorer

[-] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 58 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

the lengths people will go to not simply use a better OS

[-] Blackout@kbin.social 14 points 9 months ago

Man I wish. All my work is CAD and rendering software. None of it works on Linux.

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[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Sledgehammer works too.

[-] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's not the best. Instead hold the power button until the computer turns off.

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[-] baggins@lemmy.ca 31 points 9 months ago

Should have installed Linux instead

[-] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

I do use linux mint for basic stuff, bit I am a complete noob and can’t figure out how to get Altstore on it, not that it matters because it hasn’t been updated in 2 years for Linux

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[-] MxM111@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago

You do not need to update Linux?

[-] moody@lemmings.world 30 points 9 months ago

Without intending to circlejerk, the only linux updates that I have encountered that required a reboot were kernel updates, and they don't force a reboot, they just don't apply until you do. And when you do update the kernel, the update is downloaded and set up without interrupting anything. You can just power off when you're done, and next time you power on, it's already updated. None of those "Please wait 5-10 minutes, and don't power off your PC" messages.

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[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 18 points 9 months ago
[-] Andrew15_5@mander.xyz 15 points 9 months ago

More like "it's your choice".

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[-] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Well you are not forced, much better when trying to manage time or data

[-] tubaruco@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

and you can use the pc while it updates

[-] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

At this point I just accept that my windows desktop is going to reboot itself and update itself every fucking night. I used to be able to leave it on for months at a time only rebooting when I felt like it and had prepared all of my open projects to be rebooted.

Now I do those projects on my Linux PC, which has to be a separate PC now because the windows updates completely screw up dual booting. Microsoft is such a shit show, I would probably only turn on that PC on the weekends except I need Windows for work.

[-] OR3X@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

Put a second hard drive In your PC and install Linux solely to it. Then you can use your BIOS boot menu to choose which OS to boot and Windows can't wreck GRUB when updating.

[-] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I thought that too. My (now windows only) computer has two M2 slots, I used one for Linux and one for Windows. One day I walked into my office having left windows running the night before and my computer had rebooted and updated, The first thing I did was try to boot into the Linux partition and it did not work.

Not taking that chance again, I now have two separate PCs on my desk.

[-] OR3X@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

Hmm. That's interesting. The only thing I can think of that could potentially cause that is if for whatever reason there was an exisitng EFI partition on your linux drive. Windows will use whatever EFI it sees even if it's on a separate drive from it's primary NTFS partition. As you can imagine this can cause some fucky stuff to happen.

[-] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago

Some instructions I've read for dual booting recommend installing Linux first, removing the SSD wit Linux on it from the computer, and then install Windows to prevent that from happening.

It's really shitty that users have to go through all that trouble, though.

[-] lunarul@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

I never shut down or restart my computer. Then some mornings I find that Windows decided to automatically restart my computer anyway. I lost a lot of unsaved notes that way.

[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago

That's a you problem. Don't blame windows for shitty practices.

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 22 points 9 months ago

To be fair, it would also be highly distruptive if you let the computer run overnight to finish some long running job and Windows decides it's rebootin' time. The point is: the OS shouldn't decide for you to reboot.

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[-] explodicle@local106.com 12 points 9 months ago

Like using Windows

[-] orangeboats@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Ackshually you still can blame Windows for not supporting live updates.

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[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 9 months ago

… why exactly are you leaving unsaved work open on your PC and expecting it to be there the next day? And it seems it’s intentional? Think of all the things that could lose the work apart from an update. A power outage, a brownout, a failed PC component; memory corruption, and more.

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[-] InputZero@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 months ago

I'm sorry that you've lost so much work. Although it's kind of irresponsible to leave unsaved work open overnight. Perhaps you could look into applications that have an autosave feature? Alternativly if your workflow permits it do your work on the cloud?

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[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 21 points 9 months ago

You're the reason Microsoft has to force it on the rest of us.

Everyone would still be able to shut down without updating, if people actually rebooted once in a while when Windows asked. Instead of leaving it in a perpetual sleep cycle of multiple years, and then blaming Microsoft when things go tits up.

At least the Pro version is still able to do so, since then the user can blame the IT department instead.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think you mean Enterprise? I don’t believe Pro allows you to completely disable auto updates. Furthest I think you can do is turn them off for at most 2 weeks?

Unless you mean with group policies or disabling services, which I believe is still possible even in Home.

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[-] bestusername@aussie.zone 13 points 9 months ago

"Update and Shutdown"... Walk away.

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[-] sweafa@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 9 months ago
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[-] MxM111@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago

What’s power button right? Do power buttons have rights? Or is it right side of power button?

[-] fin@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The power button has the right to legally shutdown the computer it belongs to

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