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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by BeamBrain@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net

It's always projection

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[-] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 48 points 8 months ago

Brits pretending they'd care what a pole thinks.

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

Brits are anti communist, the polish voice is given a great deal of credence as such. One of the most inherently reactionary nations, true for both.

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago

inherently reactionary nations

so-true - there are vast reactionary sympathies there rn, so it must mean they are enemies of the proletariat!

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

You’re right, I was being wrong and a dick.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Pretty fucking sure Poland wouldn't exist if the Soviet Union hadn't fucking liberated them. What do they think Germany was gonna do? The Poles, Polish culture and so on would all have been Germanised.

The actions the USSR took preserved the very existence of a Poland that would otherwise have been totally deleted from existence by the nazis in their pursuit of Lebensraum.

[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 8 months ago

Awoo over here with a better grasp at polish history than our so called "historians".

[-] Dyno@hexbear.net 40 points 8 months ago

No, you can't ask that - it's whataboutism

Which, coincidentally, was originally coined in Ireland in the 70s, referring to people who defended the IRA

[-] WHATABOUTISM_DETECTOR@hexbear.net 32 points 8 months ago

Whataboutism? What about deez nuts?

[-] Dyno@hexbear.net 23 points 8 months ago
[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago
[-] WHATABOUTISM_DETECTOR@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

soypoint-1 whataboutism soypoint-2

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Interestingly enough, Polish anticommunists claim there was absolutely no risk of Soviet intervention during the 1980-81 colour revolution.

The ones saying there was, was government and especially general Jaruzelski, later citing it as one of the main reasons of enacting the martial law.

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Hilariously, it's also pretty much the only positive thing that is said about Jaruzelski - he supposedly prevented a Soviet intervention.

Tbh, I'm not sure what the tanks rolling into Warsaw would have even done. The outcome would have been exactly the same as IRL, assuming the same developments in the USSR, considering the lack of real opposition to reform and compromise with the libs in the PZPR. Or maybe those people have simply been (intentionally) forgotten by history.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think PZPR would be purged so a lot of those that 8 years later betrayed would have to go. But this purge most likely wouldn't change much except particular names, considering that military didn't really had any idea of keeping power nor any idea what to do with it. And finally don't forget that thick line of Mazowiecki was a scam right from the beginning, they never kept any deals except personal omertas with those that knew too much.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago

Whatever the soviet union did to Poland they didn't do it enough evidently

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago

Thing is, the notable thing that the USSR did against the growing opposition movement in Poland during the early 80s?

Well... nothing. Send a few concerned letters, I suppose.

[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 8 months ago

Coraz więcej osób to mówi ludziska. :a-little-trolling:

[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 8 months ago

Kurwa fajnie by było gdyby wjechali. 🙄

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 8 months ago
[-] TranslatorBot@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 8 months ago

Fuck it would be cool if they got in. 🙄

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[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago

I keep asking the pole about it and it just keeps telling me to Stop

[-] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 8 months ago

Just being smol uwu toast beans 😚

[-] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

Why would I ask a pole anything?

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