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[–] eicker@lemmy.world 368 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The best part of paying for a coding assistant is discovering halfway through your project that it has developed opinions about what your project is allowed to be. Imagine your IDE refusing to compile because it thinks your game feels a little too much like Tetris. At least a compiler doesn’t pretend it’s doing you a favor.

[–] belochka@lemmy.world 121 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think that's what they wanted from the very beginning, to accelerate projects that are socially convenient for them, but not those that are not.

There's that issue with universal machines that some people don't like that others are allowed to make universal decisions.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 104 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I got shut down by it two days ago. It suddenly told me that the project I was working on had tripped some kind of guard, that it couldn't continue working with me on it, and it couldn't tell me why. I just went back to my local Qwen model. I can't see this doing great things for selling Claude subscriptions.

[–] GMac@feddit.org 45 points 1 week ago

As it was before AI. Local is the answer when shared is at the mercy of interests antagonistic to the users.

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[–] halloween_spookster@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago

My coworker recently had an experience where he was trying to fix a security hole and his AI wouldn't do it because it claimed that it was unsafe.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago

For me I was working on testing our IoT device in heavy network load situations. It said it would not help because it was too close to crafting a DDoS attack. Thankfully this was rather trivial to do.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 158 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Local LLMs are the way to go on AI, they can't suddenly change the model up on you. And also, I guess Anthropic just wants their models to be more useless ahead of going public? Because I presume people that want to use AI, who don't care where they send their data to, but don't want to nagged about how they can't do benign programming and analysis tasks, will just choose another model provider.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 54 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's more about not spooking investors. If it's known that your AI is being used to reverse engineer software from well off corporations. They're going to be a little less likely to invest if 1: They're connected to any of those corporations 2: They're concerned about future lawsuits heading their way.

And of course the actual fear of potential lawsuits landing on their door, or being named in lawsuits against people using their AI to do this.

Yes, if you want control over AI you MUST host it yourself in reality.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 40 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Why? Reverse engineering is neither unethical or illegal.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 30 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I never said it was. But, I'm also not an investor. I'm just saying the kind of things that scare off investors. And this would be a big one.

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[–] BooBees@fedinsfw.app 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is where they’re gonna make things less secure as far as national security - foreign local models won’t have these restrictions for obvious reasons, so people will gladly install those and ignore crippled domestic options.

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Uhm yeah good luck with running anything locally after hardware prices double again and again. Big tech needs to be stopped. There is no wiggling out of this just by being a smart customer.

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[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 130 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Copyright violation from American AI hoovering up all the data is okie dokie unless it's used by peasants to threaten technology corporations.

I'm not defending them it's just comical hypocrisy, and ans I doubt China AI will have the same kneecapped coding capabilities.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Chinese models are kneecapping Tiananmen Square and Winnie the Pooh, they'll happily do anything else.

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[–] FoxAlive@lemmy.zip 105 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Was bound to happen eventually. They're going to try to make open models illegal now.

My opinions are that its fine to make llm projects that threaten corporations who rely on saas. Doesn't mean im going to use them or that they're any good, but I want to see these companies who are firing all their employees and throwing all their money at ai to get scourned. Will build more distrust between the corpos too.

And just to be clear its okay when they steal literally the entire world's knowledge base. But as soon as adobe and Microsoft see a 2% drop in profit all the sudden everyone's a terrorist, or its the worst thing to happen ever. I hate ai but I'll root for my enemy when he's destroying one of my original enemies, can't wait for these companies to burn. I'd go back to the stone ages if I knew elon, Sam Altmann, etc where all dead.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I’d go back to the stone ages if I knew elon, Sam Altmann, etc where all dead.

Going back to 80's tech where most things were still analog should do it. Pen and paper, fax machines, analog tape and vynil records

[–] FoxAlive@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I think we can realistically live in a happy medium with modern goodies. I do like apsects of analog and prefer it in many applications over digital. And its hard to say that in general because the first place my mind goes to is sensors for pi/esps, and your first thought is older analog tech. Analog sensors just seem more straight forward and it feels better to know you can just do shit without a computer in the way sometimes.

Like we sent people to the moon on kilobites of data, yet Microsoft windows needs 16 gigs of ram as a min req so copiolt can take screen shots every 30 seconds. Analog components just work on their own, require less power, and can just become its own system without a whole digital computer. Maybe instead of wifi bases lights and a whole home assistant server you just get a old fassion photoresistor and some clap sensors.

Its really as simple as just buying things that don't need access to the internet or some dumb app just because the product costs less. I think in theory we could exist in a world where there's a better happy medium where every devices doesn't have to also be a android smart phone so that it can also spy on you and sell your data to ai and government.

But also at the same time I am stubborn enough where I will drag us down into the dark ages if it meant if the offer magically was presented to me. If you put two buttons infront of me I would press the dark ages button so fast.

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[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 95 points 1 week ago

Hilarious

"Give us all your code for free who cares about copyright anyway"

"NOOOO YOU CANT USE OUR PRODUCT TO GET FRE CODE 😡😡😡"

[–] FE80@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (2 children)

AI exists to aid capital against you; not aid you against capital.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 48 points 1 week ago (5 children)

AI exists to devalue human labour.

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[–] spacehulk@lemmy.zip 79 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Only the AI companies are allowed to plagiarize.

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[–] unruffled@anarchist.nexus 61 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Too late... the genie is out of the bottle now! All those corporate software copyright moats are being attacked, and there's nothing they can do about it, lmao. Set it all free :)

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 week ago

Couldn't come at a better time. Enshittification has hit the software industry hard. The argument for captialism is that it makes the best product at the lowest price. However the recent reality is that capitalism makes the worst product for the highest price.

Burn it all down.

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[–] gobberwarts@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago

They’re training their models on my art. It’s only fair I get to use their technology in return.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 1 week ago (3 children)

ai is gonna kill proprietary software! adobe and microsoft are done for now that we can reverse engineer their products with ai and make them open source!!!

you naive fools… the copyright of corporations is sacrosanct, remember? not like the copyleft of independent artists or free software. that can be violated at will!

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[–] weps@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I once asked Claude to check the app it vibecoded for security flaws and it didn't want to do it.

It literally told me to look up some basic security principles and do it myself.

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[–] Klox@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Well that was an impressive speed run to enshitifcation. What kind of sensorship is queued up next?

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This comment has been flagged for reason [anticapitalism]. You may revert this conversation to an earlier point or switch to a non-american model

[–] nednobbins@lemmy.zip 37 points 1 week ago

Gee. I wonder why anyone would want the inefficiency of local inference?

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 36 points 1 week ago

Please, please make it useless for as many use cases as possible. Then maybe it'll go away.

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is what happens when you rely on the products of giant corporations.

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[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The legitimate developers I know aren't hit by Claude restrictions, because they don't fucking use it.

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[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

The restrictions are so they can gradually institute tiered access fees. This is how the industry becomes profitable.

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[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago

That's a pretty significant part of the value and utility of AI...I bet stealing ppls ideas and getting to market first is still totally fine though, right?

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

"Why have you done nothing for the past week?"

"Sorry boss, the AI refuses to do my work for me"

[–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's the problem when you don't own

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Great time to know how to do things yourself.

[–] Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you can only use AI for things it's been approved to do... Meaning that basically nothing new can be discovered by AI, as that could be considered dangerous.

So then what again exactly is the fucking point other than stealing IP from people that can't afford a team of high priced lawyers?

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

No. You can only use AI for things it's been approved to do.

These companies and the US government get to do whatever they want.

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

This is another reason why I've reduced my dependency on AI considerably over the past few weeks, and I no longer personally pay for any AI tools/services at all.

It's insane to think someone would pay for something and after using it for a couple days they get told they can't use it for certain things anymore.

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[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This almost feels like some sort of oxymoron.

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[–] anonymouspl@piefed.world 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This is sick!
They started with limiting cyber research capabilities, now gaming, within a month... what?
Useless piece of shit. That's why I use Mistral.
Mistral, please do NOT go that way - I'd have to self-host my AI, and it ain't cheap :))

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[–] Bluedragon012@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's out of the box.

They can try, but, it's too late.

Don't hesitate, bring them to thier knees.

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[–] ennof@feddit.org 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not sure making the tool you're selling less useful is a smart idea. Hmm, yes liability is an issue. But other models are just gonna allow it anyway, so people will just stop using Claude for that usecase. Reverse engineering won't stop. Claude will just not be used for it anymore

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