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Inside Israel’s torture camp for Gaza detainees (www.972mag.com)

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In early December, images circulated worldwide showing dozens of Palestinian men in the city of Beit Lahiya, in the northern Gaza Strip, who were stripped to their underwear, kneeling or sitting hunched over, then blindfolded and put into the back of Israeli military trucks like cattle. The vast majority of these detainees were civilians with no affiliation to Hamas, Israeli security officials later confirmed, and the men were taken away by the army without notifying their families of the detainees’ whereabouts. Some of them never returned.

+972 Magazine and Local Call spoke with four Palestinian civilians who appeared in these photos, or were arrested near the scene and taken to Israeli military detention centers, where they were held for several days or even weeks before being released back to Gaza. Their testimonies — along with 49 video testimonies published by various Arabic media outlets of Palestinians arrested in similar circumstances in recent weeks in the northern districts of Zeitoun, Jabalia, and Shuja’iya — indicate systematic abuse and torture by Israeli soldiers against all of the detainees, civilians and combatants alike.

According to these testimonies, Israeli soldiers subjected Palestinian detainees to electric shocks, burned their skin with lighters, spat in their mouths, and deprived them of sleep, food, and access to bathrooms until they defecated on themselves. Many were tied to a fence for hours, handcuffed, and blindfolded for most of the day. Some testified to having been beaten all over their bodies and having cigarettes extinguished on their necks or backs. Several people are known to have died as a result of being held in these conditions.

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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 127 points 10 months ago

It's crazy these israelis are acting like literal Nazi concentration camp guards.

Treating all their captives like sub-humans and going on a maximum level bully powertrip by making them do dehumiliating things or else they will torture them even till death.

Fuck israel. Nazi pieces of shit.

[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 78 points 10 months ago

I mean, we could all see this behavior prior to this latest conflict. So many videos of IDF gleefully beating down / gassing / shoving guns in faces of clearly civilians on their own property, on religious sites, on public streets, etc.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

That's true, but this time they're rounding up innocent people and openly put them into concentration camps.

All that's left is increasing the pace by building gas chambers and giant open fires to pile bodies on.

[-] OurTragicUniverse@kbin.social 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They've been doing that for decades. This is nothing new, it's just in the public eye now.

[-] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Why should they bother with outdated gas chambers when there is a free inflow of innumerous artillery shells, strike jets, tank shells, rockets and such for all that time. Just hurl the free boomball and don't worry about anything.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 14 points 10 months ago

Yeah, one of the reasons Nazis resorted to gas chambers was that they needed all the ammo to fight a war.

[-] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Soon they'll have a very original idea to win their righteous war, an idea they'll call the final solution

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[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 79 points 10 months ago

More fucking war crimes. Anyone defending this is defending genocide.

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[-] ButtCheekOnAStick@lemmy.world 76 points 10 months ago

Are we the baddies?

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 44 points 10 months ago

yes

[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 74 points 10 months ago

They learned the SS handbook really well.

[-] Jaderick@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago

It’s mind boggling that the only thing the state of Israel learned from the Holocaust is how to do it better.

[-] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago

They just had more time to practice than Nazi Germany did.

[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

THey're not there... yet

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[-] Bipta@kbin.social 38 points 10 months ago

For anyone wondering if this site is credible, it is

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/972-magazine/

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[-] Deebster@lemmy.ml 36 points 10 months ago

According to testimonies, the soldiers ordered all the men to undress, gathered them in one place, and took the photos that were later disseminated on social media (senior Israeli officials have since chided the soldiers for sharing the images).

It's very telling that the officials only have a problem with the evidence of their war crimes.

[-] Wermhatswormhat@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

How tf is the US still supporting these sub-human pieces of shit. Holy fuck, Biden is just letting this happen. They’ve taken what could be called as an open area prison and fully converted it to a concentration camp. I said it last night, they won’t stop until the entire state of Gaza is dead. They talk about their vision for a post war Gaza and it’s essentially just Israeli occupation “until they see fit” and there will be “no speaking out or hostility towards Israel of any kind.” At best it’s a dictatorship, and at worst a fucking death camp.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The most terrifying part of this is that no one there is sub-human. The people doing these horrible horrible things are exactly as human as you and me and that's mortifyingly agonizing to me. I really really wish we lived in a world where the worst of monsters weren't human, even if it was just a little not human, but that's just not our world.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

This is exactly what propaganda does, spreading misinformation, dehumanizing the people on the other side, spreading hatred and so on and unfortunately normal people can easily fall on that and start seeing the others as subhuman species.

The same with the Nazis. A lot of them were just regular citizens who were subjected to a lot of propaganda and at some point all of the atrocities they were doing were normalised in their eyes.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

I'm with you for all this. But let's not be like them. Let's not dehumanize them like they do their victims. They're very human. Shitty humans. But definitely human.

[-] Wermhatswormhat@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Fair enough. You’re right.

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[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

They learned it from US. Does nobody remember Abu Graib? Guantanamo Bay?

[-] willybe@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago

For those who think US Army is above this kind of torture.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse

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[-] TheUncannyObserver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 10 months ago

I’m gonna say it. Israel is no better than the Nazis, and I wholeheartedly believe the nation should be dissolved and the people moved off of the land they stole from the Palestinians. These people do not act with humanity, and I don’t have any sympathy for whatever happens to them in the future.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

I think the only way this can end is similar to South Africa. International pressure needs to end the current governance of Israel as an apartheid state and a new state with equal rights for all Palestinians, including all the refugees, and Israeli citizens needs to be created in its place.

[-] stmcld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago

True. But i would add the extra detail that all the land stolen from Palestinians by Israel should be returned.

In South Africa that wasn't done. We had land and a house that my grandfather built up by himself in what is now one the most expensive suburbs in Cape Town. That land was stolen from us and never returned.

And it hurts so much everytime we have to go past there because there are rich white folks living there now. And we know we'll never be able to afford that land now no matter how hard we work. Now we struggle to even leave a home for our children to inherit.

I don't want that happening to the Palestinians again.

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