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[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 363 points 1 week ago (3 children)

And that's without paying royalties to content creators as they should be required to do

[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 141 points 1 week ago (1 children)

also before court cases for defamation. Two cases in Germany hold Google executives responsible for false claims (by the Google AI) of sexual crime claims against an innocent man.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 81 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Good. If you want to make AI a form of communication then that's the voice of your company. You're endorsing whatever it says.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

or counting the $1.5 trillion in debt the big AI players are hiding in subsidiaries

[–] borkborkbork@piefed.social 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

yeah the circle-jerk nvidia has created with coreweave and so many others just to wreck the gpu and memory markets, all so these hideously expensive AI racks can SIT IN THEIR FUCKING PACKAGING ON A LOADING DOCK because they don't have power or cooling built is mindboggling

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[–] Nobody@anarchist.nexus 186 points 1 week ago (7 children)

An entire industry built around burning cash, water, and electricity to generate questionable answers based on glorified autocorrect. It’s astounding.

Throw another few trillion and a couple dozen rain forests at it. Completely rational behavior.

[–] Gsus4@programming.dev 48 points 1 week ago (8 children)

glorified autocorrect and plagiarism/nonatribition.

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[–] trojanbark@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (22 children)
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[–] protist@retrofed.com 104 points 1 week ago (10 children)

The loss, up from $13 billion a year earlier, was driven by $72 billion in accounting charges tied to changes in the value of financial instruments Anthropic issued to raise money

This right here is how all of this will come crashing down. Anthropic and OpenAI, along with several associated companies, are using accounting tricks to hide their debts and obligations. These two are trying to maintain hype for investors so they can cash in on an IPO with total disregard for long-term fiscal sustainability. At some point the bill will come due, and you can bet the C-Suite will have already made out like bandits.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 52 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Don't forget, though, that there's another cashflow that they're banking on: total surveillance.

AI can't do a lot of things, but the thing it's most suited for is creating a society run like a prison to try and keep the discontented masses in check.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Not enough people realize this. They think the component shortage is a side effect, but it’s to push you towards cloud services on underpowered devices that rely on it.

Imagine the censorship when every service is monitored and controlled by them. Imagine the market capture when they can see everyone’s financials and trade secrets. When they can cut off journalists and activists with one click.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (2 children)

All those loans are getting hot. They're starting to toss them around and trying to hide them.

I have strong doubts they can ever make this particular approach to AI work at all, let alone in time to cover their bets.

This path looks like a dead end. But, I don't know jack about shit.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 23 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The issue is they are too expensive, it's not really a limitation of the technology, well it might be, but that's not the issue here. They are paying Nvidia Billions for their entire 2026/27 GPU runs and they can't get the customers to cover that. It's like $200 pm for their max plan. It's almost cheeper to hire a human in India.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why haven't they just asked Claude how to make money with their business model? /s

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They have.

  1. Wait for excited CEOs to fire all their staff.

  2. Crank up the prices.

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[–] jtrek@startrek.website 44 points 1 week ago (6 children)

That's a lot of money that could have been spent on healthcare, food security, housing, transit, climate change problems...

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[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This IPO is going to be one of the biggest rug pulls in history.

[–] ElChinchilla@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

Yes. If you follow the money, investors in OpenAI are the usual suspects, a Kushner in there (admittedly the "best" kushner) and the early investors were guaranteed returns of up to 18% (bank CD currently around 5.3%) which stemmed from a $500B injection from the US government. Not only will it be a rug pull, but a government built one. Truly appaling, we let the fox in the henhouse.

Cant have Healthcare for our people, but can pump and dump the world economy.

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[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Please don't make the tax payer pay for it. The tax payer is gonna pay for it, right?

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[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 week ago

Sound investment. Sounds like the echo down a dark tunnel.

[–] theedqueen@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

C’mon. Implode already.

[–] GolfFoxtrotLima@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The ai crash of 2026 can’t come soon and fast enough

[–] Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago

The RAM cartel is figuring out a new excuse for a price hike before allowing it.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Can't wait to end up holding the bag for this because they're "too big to fail" again.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So much of their revenue is government contracts. Especially with the Pentagon.

Really can't be overstated how they've wormed themselves into the Military Industrial Complex.

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[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

Stop_trying_to_make_AI_happen.jpg

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 week ago (6 children)

$8B real loss on $16B revenue. ($72B is a bondholder gain (accounting loss) from conversion). $9B in training costs not counted as loss, even though it is worthless whenever next model version is released.

$561B in forced spending on compute over next 10 years, with $750B total compute costs lined up. Structural losses are baked in for a few years.

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[–] EtruDUR@thelemmy.club 29 points 1 week ago (20 children)

It is obvious to me that AI computing is a COMMODITY, in that it will inevitably be something that can not be effectively gate-kept.

These two major US companies (OpenAI and Anthropic) are playing the game of “locking in” a monopoly in a product category that has yet to mature. This is a pretty old capitalist game, of course… Uber, Microsoft, facebook,and many others have played this game in the past.

But, unlike OSes or word processing file compatibility I don’t see a “network effect” in that an open source/weight model can/will do 99% of what a proprietary model can, will do it “transparently,” will eventually become so optimized that it can run locally, etc. etc.

I mean: maybe its name recondition that is worth “trillions” but a race to be “Xerox” or “Kleenex” or even “PC” (as in IBM PC) did not really work out well for these companies.

I think that even the established players (MS, Google, etc.) are biding their time, making sure that they don’t get locked out while non-proprietary solutions become feasible.

I means I know that much of the issues have to do with the limited availability of hardware, but locking down supply is not sustainable for the “big 2” and sooner or later more adequate memory and GPU supply will enter the market…

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 week ago

See here's the thing: it isn't really their money, so they don't give a shit. If it was, things would be... ✨different✨

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Goddamm... This could easily have housed every man, woman, and child in this country. But no, no free housing while we squander wealth with our stupid ideas.

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[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago (23 children)

I just recently installed Strata which runs on qwen 3.8 flash next. I'm getting over 50 toks. Now a deepseek v4 version is out along with glm 5.3 flash. It's slower but useable and very capable. All this on a 5080 16GB and 128GB ddr5.

The future for me is going to be open weights and on your own hardware.

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[–] rem26_art@fedia.io 20 points 1 week ago

thats about how much money Meta spent on trying to make the Metaverse work over a 4ish year period. Thats an insane amount of money for one company to spend in half a year. Like a mind-boggling amount of money. Even if you've made $16B in the same time frame, you're still 5 times deeper in the hole

[–] XiJinpingStanAccount@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago

"A MINOR SETBACK ON THE PATH TO THE SINGULARITY!" -

[–] Pratai@piefed.ca 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Rookie numbers. C’mon. Lose it all! Be #1!

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[–] TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Billion is officially the new million.

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