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Sipping tea from beer mugs with his co-workers, Kyle Bos listed the ways his life is changing.

Bos has two daughters, with a third due in January. At the grocery store, five items cost as much as a full cart once did. And on Wednesday, Bos and nearly 1,400 other people were laid off from their jobs at what had been the Navistar truck factory in southwestern Ohio.

The layoffs — occurring just three days before President Donald Trump's rally on Saturday at a nearby high school — were large enough to basically erase an entire year of job growth in the greater Dayton, Ohio, area. And they are one reason why Bos, 30, plans to spend the final weeks before the November election canvassing votes for Democrats.

Asked how many times he had voted for Trump, Bos held up three tattooed fingers. But he said he's done with the president.

"Something has to change politically in this country," said Bos, a member of the United Auto Workers who identifies as a centrist. "Seems like it just kept getting worse and worse and worse."

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If they vote Republican again they can make 5,000 dollars so i've been told by the orange paedophile.

Also they can sleep soundly knowing Iran can never have a nuclear weapon.

[–] group_hug@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

If only there were some kind of deal with iran that prevented them from getting nuclear weapons.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

Also they can sleep soundly knowing Iran can never have a nuclear weapon.

Frankly, I wouldn't put it past him to fuck up that part too

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But... at a certain point, lack of a decent education, critical thinking or intelligence becomes the driving cause. And that isn't their fault. So it is hard to say someone like the guy in the story truely deserved this. He deserved better. He deserved to be protected by those who had the mental capacity and education to see the reality of trump. Those who saw it, and supported it anyway are the ones who deserve to pay the price.

[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I concede that there is a line where it's not totally your fault, but I think there's still some blame.

Overall, it's expensive to be poor, not everyone has time to be educated, and sometimes you don't know what you don't know. Our systems are set up to fail you in a lot of ways, and education is another battleground.

I don't think that absolves you when there are constant headlines talking about the blatant racism, homophobia, crass hatred, the last time they were in office, the economic plans. Hell the more I think about it, the more in your face it all is.

It's not all the blame, it's definitely more than none.

I think a fair number of people don't watch or read the news. And I don't really blame them. But when it co,es to the uneducated who do... the ones I know (very small data size) believed that the bad things about trump were fake news. And I get that. The news media is pretty blatant with all the clickbait and sensationalization of the news. They have plenty of reason to distrust it. It takes a lot of effort to keep up with which news sources are still mostly reliable. I don't see a lot of uneducated people who are working manual labor jobs having the energy and motivation to put in that kind of effort. And the article makes a subtle point. The gov wasn't improving his life, so he voted for someone different, hoping for change.

I will admit way back when trump ran in 2016, I thought maybe the fact that he was getting real attention might shake things up. I assumed he would lose like he always did over the years. Yet, he certainly has shaken things up. Maybe in the long run, we might see some real change. I kinda doubt it, but who knows. The rise of the social democrates or whatever we are calling them is at least a step forward.

[–] Rusticus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

What do you expect in this Epstein economy?

[–] tigermountain@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And Trump will tell people at the rally to stop complaining because affordability is a hoax by the democrats and it would have been so much worse if Biden was president. And far too many people will leave the rally believing it.

[–] Jayhosh@futurology.today 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Family member of mine said it's because the the Democrats have the Senate and Representatives...... He was/is brain washed and didn't realize who is holding power right now

[–] tigermountain@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have to make sure I heard that correctly. You're saying you have a family member that believes the House and Senate are currently controlled by democrats?

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I didn't think voting for a corrupt industrialist who is markedly anti union would effect my labor job in manufacturing!!! who could have known?!

[–] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 6 points 1 day ago

Something about leopards…

[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 61 points 2 days ago (27 children)

"Something has to change politically in this country," said Bos, a member of the United Auto Workers who identifies as a centrist. "Seems like it just kept getting worse and worse and worse."

It's you. You have to change. You won't. You voted three times for the guy who has never taken responsibility for his own actions.

[–] silentaba@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Did you read the paragraph before that one? Because it sort of seems like you didn't.

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[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

They have my sympathy, but I'm also laughing at them for getting what they voted for.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 136 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Asked how many times he had voted for Trump, Bos held up three tattooed fingers. But he said he's done with the president.

Look, I was all in for ruining other people's lives, but now that I lost my job, I'm out

[–] adjectivenoun@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Now he's "done with the president." Well he's fucking term limited so he bravely made his choice after he no longer had the option to make it.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Keep munching on the shit sandwich from MAGA and guzzle down the Orange Kool-Aid. Zero sympathy, you voted for it.

[–] spacegoat@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

I’m straight up ready to abandon the American blue collared workers. They have been willingly duped for too long. Let them starve

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And that's the point!

Pretty much no viable Republican would say such a thing. They'll do 10,000 things that make it clear they've abandoned blue-collar / working class people. They'll support 1,000,000 more things that make it clear they've abandoned blue-collar / working class people. But they would never actually say they abandoned (or are ready to abandon) blue-collar / working class people.

So, Republican/MAGA managed to take near total control of the 3 branches of the USA's federal government, a huge portion of state governments, and an enormous amount of local governments without even having to really try. Because "the other side" is more than happy to abandon the folks who voted for it.

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[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 84 points 2 days ago (5 children)

He identifies a a centrist but voted Trump three times. Can someone help me with the math because something doesn't add up.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Many people claiming to be "independents" or "centrists" are just lying. They are temporarily embarrassed conservatives, usually.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

🤔 what happened to Enlightened Centrism / Both Sides btw?

There were whole subs that professed to be earnest about it, and others that ridiculed it.

But being openly nazi is perfectly fine nowadays, there's no reason to obfuscate one's true opinions anymore.

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[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Quick, someone find me the worlds smallest violin

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

ohions can afford a atomic violin.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

I'd be willing to bet 1200 of them still vote GOP in November.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 90 points 3 days ago (6 children)
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[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

DRUMP'S ECONOMY

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