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They also have the largest percentage of population imprisoned on Earth. Savage society.

Nah, one part I disagree with: I'm an American, and I very much wish there were more people like you here.

Yeah like, if she recovers what are they going to do, kill her again?

I'm against capital punishment and the way they do it in the US is barbaric. But at this point it would be more humane to pull the plug or hit her with a hammer or something

It sucks even more because she was begging to be shot instead of an injection because of her child abuse.

I don't know why life in prison wasn't enough? She was removed from society and getting the psychological help she needed regularly.

They're also freely giving her better medical attention and coverage than an abhorrent percentage of the rest of the population. They're giving her care that an insurance company would do their damndest to deny, and as soon as she's conscious, they'll try to kill her again.

The state is probably pissy though because now they have to do paperwork to get another death warrant signed.

Nah I disagree, the state shouldn't get to disguise the violence it inflicts on people. Executions should not happen full stop, but if they do I condemn any measure whatsoever that spares the executioners from the trauma of what they are doing.

If I were to be executed I'd much rather be hanged, beheaded, or shot and without a hood in any case - hangmen and other supporting officials have no business making it easier for themselves to sleep at night.

Humane execution haha

“Christians” have been doing crimes against humanity for two thousand years

Not nearly. I had to put down my dog recently, unfortunately and can share how it went.

I'll start by saying it was time. She was over 15 years old, blind, and disabled. But rest assured that she had a very rich life full of friends and travel. We did everything we could to give her the best life we could afford.

The vet warned my partner and I about how quickly it takes effect. The first thing they did was put in an IV catheter, which was probably the most discomfort she faced. But she was getting spoiled during it. After that it was two shots. The first one made her let out a deep yawn and knocked her out asleep. The second one ensured she never woke up from it, effectively an overdose. She knew the vet well, so from her perspective it was some discomfort followed by a nap.

I miss her every day 💔

Most pharmaceutical companies won't sell the state the drugs used to properly kill someone. Rather than stop executing people, the state tries to make do with whatever they can get their hands on.

Not in the slightest.

The protocols for euthanizing small animals are written by doctors and veterinarians and scientists. None of those people want anything to do with executions, so the protocols for executions are generally written by people with little medical training, and the people conducting the execution are in a similar boat.

The result is that execution protocols are far from optimal. Take for example the typical three drug cocktail- first drug knocks you out, second drug paralyzes you, third drug stops the heart. Only problem is the third drug is extremely painful so if the dosage of the first drug is too low you can be conscious for it but unable to move leading to one of the most torturous painful deaths you can imagine, which nobody on the outside has any idea is going on because you are unable to move.

A much better execution protocol would be something like fentanyl or a single massive overdose of barbiturates. Either one you would just pass out and die quickly. Another option is nitrogen, the air we breathe is 80% nitrogen so the body doesn't react to it. Simply give somebody 100% nitrogen 0% oxygen, the brain is starved of oxygen, you get painless euphoric unconsciousness in under a minute and death in under 10 minutes. It's also cheap as hell because it's all around us.

Thing is- speaking for myself, as a pilot and scuba diver I understand exactly how nitrogen hypoxia works and I could write a 100% bulletproof execution protocol that could be administered by a trained monkey and would lead to a rapid painless death every time. I won't do it. You could pay me a million dollars and I wouldn't do it. I don't have faith in our criminal justice system prudence to execute people. There are too many situations where innocent people have been convicted and executed and the system did not properly consider the evidence in their favor. As such I don't think it's ethical for me to help a system kill people when I don't have faith that they are always going to kill the right people and not the wrong ones.

And the thing is, and not the only one. There's an awful lot of doctors and medical technicians in this country, and prison systems still have trouble finding ones to deal with executions. There's tons of pharmaceutical suppliers in the world and prison systems have trouble finding ones that will supply execution drugs at any price. The vast majority of people simply do not want to be part of capital punishment.

And as for who pays, it's the taxpayer. Given the actual execution and all of the legal hurdles involved, it is a good bit cheaper to just incarcerate somebody for life. Which makes you wonder why some people are so dead set on having a death penalty when for less money we can just lock them up and throw away the key.

You assume that killing animals goes well all the time.. its doesn't and we mostly dont kill them before we butcher them.

Usually they are just stunned and the bled to death.

Which if course works but.. not all the time.

Because - and I can't stress this enough - there is a severe case of "I really don't give a shit" that permeates literally every professional role in the US. From fast food to federal government, there are way way too many people who just literally do not give a shit.

It's compounded in the bureaucratic jobs because those are the people the rest of us rely on to get the proper information to the people who need it (i.e. medical records to a doctor, passing info from one party to another), and entirely too often is there literally always something missing that would have taken all of 5 seconds worth of extremely little effort to make sure everything was correct.

It's honestly astounding just how little everyone seems to care bout anything that isn't directly involving themselves or someone they know personally.