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[–] Qkall@lemmy.ml 70 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I miss this type of shit from early ufc days... Like they used to just put muy Thai vs karate masters and it was interesting as hell to see. I get why it happened but now it's all mma vs mma... Not as fun imo.

Edit- I'm remembering seeing a few sumo dudes too. I'm thinking this was the 90s

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

Wasn't there a fight between an american boxer and a japanese sumo wrestler? and it was just the most epic fucking thing I'd ever witnessed. now it's all domestic abusers with a BJJ hobby

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I remember as a teenager I rented VHS of UFC 4, 5, 6 and 7 and it was the best thing I ever watched. I was trying to find the first 3, but it was hard to do in early 90s

[–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure they are free on YouTube. This was a Pride event though, Melvin Manhoef vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama.

[–] MyDearWatson616@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago

I dono this might be too interesting to be a shitpost

[–] jerebear39@slrpnk.net 33 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Looks at first the boxer had the judo(ist?), but once the judo(ist?) finally got grappling he took him down! I was surprised he won!

[–] skydivekingair@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)

All fights end up on the ground. Judo excels at getting them there faster and BJJ at ending it once horizontal.

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 7 points 10 months ago

All fights end up on the ground.

Fights end up wrestling, or someone gets knocked out on the way to wrestling.

Either way, all fights end up on the ground.

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Unless your opponent has a weapon.

[–] skydivekingair@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I consider a gurney or a mortuary the ground.

[–] alignedchaos@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yea judoka had no striking game and boxer had no wrestling game. Under these conditions the grappler could just wait out the striker until catching a grapple, then win. This is why the Gracie family pushed UFC in the 90s, because karate-and-boxing-obsessed US audiences were constantly surprised by these matches, and it led to more people signing up for Brazilian Jiu Jitsu!

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know much, but “just wait out the striker” is a skill too, no? The judoka seemed good at feinting and dodging punches, which isn’t something you practice in judo.

[–] alignedchaos@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Yea that wasn’t meant to downplay the skill required to hang. But relatively speaking, defending with a goal to clinch up takes a ton less effort and risk than pursuing an offensive striking game.

Looking from the other direction, it is incredibly difficult to actually knock someone out who is only defending and waiting to get close to you.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Things literally turned around at the halfway mark where the boxer attempted to throw the judoka and he somehow ends up on top of him.

Motherfucker pulled a UNO reverse card lol

[–] disheveledWallaby@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago
[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

How is this a shitpost?

[–] iviattendurefort@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That extra knee to the head after the tap out made me laugh; was not expecting that.

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It made me angry. Its poor sportsmanship to do a strike after a tap out.

[–] skydivekingair@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Debatable but it really looks like he does it accidentally while scrambling off his opponent.

[–] iviattendurefort@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

Good catch. It looks like his foot gets caught by the ref so he ends up slipping.

[–] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 10 months ago

Just as planned jk jk lol

[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah any of these fighting styles without a "fighting on the floor" component just lose once the other guy brings them on the floor.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

That was wacky

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

I don't think the Thai boxer is very good at his art. Looks like a street brawler to me.