What's funny is with the cost of gas spiking I don't think it'll honestly have a huge effect (not saying I agree with rolling this back). People are tired
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Yeah, that's exactly what I thought as well. Fuel economy has been a major selling point for as long as cars have existed, because it's always been a major part of the cost of running a vehicle.
Fuel economy hasn’t been a selling feature for a majority of buyers in the US since the 1970s. If it was, Ford wouldn’t have stopped shipping sedans here, and EVs wouldn’t need incentives and rebates.
A large section of the US market prefers to take out huge loans to buy an Escalade or a Ford F150 and then bitch about it when gas prices go up.
Yet, hybrid vehicles and EVs continue to gain market share. Sure theres a lot of idiots who just want a big truck to stroke their own ego but even those are starting to become hybrid or electric. There's been a downturn on full EVs after the tax credit expiration but hybrids are still growing strong and the only real benefit to a hybrid vs generic ICE is fuel economy.
EVs need incentives and rebates because they are an extra consideration for other reasons, primarily range and charging availability remaining a concern. Also media scares of EV car fires and battery life, etc.
F150? What am I, a teenager? F250 super duty at least, please.
And even the F150 is much larger than it used to be.
Apparently all the F-series trucks share the same cab now.
Ford stopped selling sedans because they couldn't build good ones to outcompete the Japanese and SK brands economy wise or German/Japanese luxury and performance wise. It isnt because people want worse gas mileage.
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Bought a PHEV earlier this year and my “old fashioned” family quickly moved from “that boy ain’t right” to “you get HOW MANY miles per gallon??” And they still can’t compute that I can drive 50 miles on less than $2 of electricity and not a drop of gas.
The numbers make sense, people just need to be shown. It’s where the market is headed, no one should really be considering anything less than hybrid. When my wife’s old Civic dies, it’ll be replaced by a full EV.
hey still can’t compute that I can drive 50 miles on less than $2 of electricity and not a drop of gas.
That sounds suspiciously like math, liburul.
I hope for my next vehicle to be an EV, but I won't take anything less that 300 miles range. I know that 90% of my driving can be comfortably done in under 200 range, but I do go on longer trips. I know that recharging has come a long way, and I have no problem hanging out for 15+ min at a station, but I won't do it every 2-3 hours because that's all I've got.
I'm hoping to get many more years out of my current ride before it dies or becomes too costly to repair vs replace. That gives ample time for battery tech to further improve, and hopefully more and cheaper EVs to the market.
I'm not a car snob by any means, but currently the only EV that really piques my interest is the ionic 5 n, but it's range is just way too low. I've been driving a WRX for a little over 6 years now, and love pretty much everything about it. I hope to someday have an EV equivalent of it.
Range anxiety is partially what pushed us to go PHEV. We really only use gas if we leave our immediate area, and on longer trips it’s the same as a full ICE car (just with much better efficiency).
I too hope for better batteries and cheaper EVs before my next purchase! Would love to see Chinese cars in the American market to humble these MSRPs.
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have no problem hanging out for 15+ min at a station, but I won't do it every 2-3 hours because that's all I've got.
And there's me planning a 2000mi road trip in my '22 Bolt next month lmao. It'll add several hours to my trip as each stop is 30min-1hr
(The old model Bolts charge pretty slow compared to most modern EVs - 50kw max.)
If I had a Hyundai or something similarly fast charging it would cut my trip by ~5 hours each way. But I almost never take trips over 300mi by car. A few times a decade, maybe.
On long driving trips it is reccomended to stop every 2-3 hours for 10 minutes anyways so I don't see the stopping to charge as an issue tbh.
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So instead of promoting more green energy, more EV's and less greenhouse gasses, the US is hurling backwards in every single policy.
the ~~US~~ MAGA cult is hurling backwards in every single policy.
Ftfy
Since MAGA is the majority of US governance MAGA is the US to anyone outside of the country. Same as Russia or Israel can be blamed for the wars against neighbors, no one cares that there is internal resistance unless it can actually do something.
Yeah, keep believing that you are not ALL controlled and pitted against each other by the same Oligarch/fascist pscho class !
Keep believing that 'Merica GREAT' and everything that is happening is all just the dumb maga's fault !
Keep believing that merican peeps had ever had any actual 'democratic' say in what internal/foreign policies was enforced !
That'll teach your fascist oligarch rulers for good !!
Good thinking !!
What this article doesn’t mention is that California is such a massive market that their state-specific regulations often dictate the behavior of car manufacturers country-wide. Why?
Nobody wants to buy a car in TX that cannot be bought or sold in CA. No car company wants to sell a CA-only model vs. a 49-other-state model of the same car, so they meet the California standard for the entire product. There is a national ripple effect that causes the federal fuel standards to become functionally redundant.
Good luck getting the California Air Resources Board (CARB) to go along with these changes, let alone the 17 other states that have adopted the same CA-leading standards.
I think part of what they’re trying to do is to declare federal supremacy and scrap CARB standards altogether. And the Tribunal of Six will probably give it to them. Idk why we even bother with courts anymore tbh
US be like:
-Let's build our entire economy around massive trucks for everyone!
oil depletes
surprised Pikachu face
-Sir, could we maybe scale down on gas-guzzling monstrosities?
-NO. We just need more oil!
wars all over the world, massive oil conflicts with huge civilian casualties
-Sir...
global military control on oil supply, attempts to artificially increase oil prices to make shale profitable
abducting an acting president
-Sir!..
-I SAID MORE DAMN TRUCKS!
Like, it is basically undermining strategic security of the country with the added benefit of razing an entire planet. Is oil business so lucrative to justify both? Or do, you know, certain people pile up money at the expense of everyone else?
Who's even going to buy a NEW gas guzzling car in this economy ?
Men whose entire identity is tied with what truck they drive. Its absolutely insane how pervasive this shit is.
A friend of mine is has super restricted finances because he has a kid and a truck. He wants a house but can't afford it because his truck costs him almost $1k/month. I've hinted that he should ditch the truck but he just can't bring himself to do it. Everyone at work drives big trucks so he feels like he has to as well to fit in.
It's completely fucked.
I met a guy with a chevy tattoo in Indiana, just shat on ford for an hour like it meant anything to me
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I actually replaced my suv with a full sized truck last year. Funny enough my average mileage went up from 17 to 28mpg. Hybrids rule.
(Yes, 28 is still shit, but much better and more useful shit than I had before).
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Republican fools.
Thus making their vehicles even more difficult to sell outside their own country.
No one takes US vehicles seriously outside the US anyway. They don't even fit on most roads.
Gotta burn that oil or daddy Putin won't have money to fight his imperialist war.
Right, of course, for the Russian imperialism, and nothing else, especially nobody else's imperialism, that's for sure.
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America is propped up by reliance on oil.
Freedom to pay more
And here I am hoping they are finally killing the fuel economy requirement that killed small trucks.
From the article, it doesn't sound like that is the case, though.
A government for the people.
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