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[-] jaschen@lemmynsfw.com 73 points 6 months ago

The people of China are fine. Fuck Xi and the CCP. Taiwan numba one.

[-] chooglers@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

mambo number 5

[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 65 points 6 months ago

I think there is more nuance here. In all my direct interactions with Chinese people in business they have been polite, responsive and intelligent. I still get messages from them long after I left the industry I was in.

The CCP however is a different story. I am opposed to them as much as I am opposed to any person or organization that seeks to usurp or silence an individuals right to self determination. There are certainly domestic threats to that right which are greater than the CCPs.

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[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 58 points 6 months ago

Here's the question, when we talk about China the country, are we talking about the Chinese people, or their government? Because I have very different answers for the two.

I've grown up with and worked with Chinese Americans, both from mainland China and Taiwan. I want to see them have freedom of speech and expression and ability to criticize the government, so I have to be adversarial to the CCP. I can't imagine liking Chinese people and the CCP simultaneously, knowing what the party does -- I want the latter reformed so the former can thrive.

I also think there's a lot of innovation for the human race as a whole if China and the US are rivals, not adversaries. Friendly competition leads to scientific advancements without compromising on joint research and efforts.

[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

The thing is, you can’t really separate the Chinese people from the CCP. Something like 7% of the population are members and the party has very high approval ratings. That’s not just because the CCP are good propagandists either. Rather the living conditions for the average Chinese person have improved dramatically over the course of only a few decades thanks to policy decisions made by the CCP. As such, opposing the CCP and wanting the Chinese people to thrive may be seen as a highly contradictory perspective to people living in mainland China.

[-] gens@programming.dev 14 points 6 months ago

By that logic, it's the same for usa.

[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago

While I would agree that many in the US have strong feelings about their party affiliation, I don’t think it’s quite the same.

For one thing, by joining the CCP you are actually required to participate. I don’t know the numbers off hand, but I imagine far fewer people in the US actually participate in their local Democratic or Republican party clubs. Additionally, the approval ratings of democrats or republicans is lower than the CCP’s even if you only poll their respective party members.

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[-] hightrix@lemmy.world 50 points 6 months ago

TikTok has been an extremely successful propaganda outlet

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[-] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

This just in: Kids today aren't yet full of hate.

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[-] Fleur__@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

I don't honestly understand the "this group of people is the enemy thing."

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago

It was never about specific nationalities.

It was always about specific governments.

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[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

You can thank Tik Tok that all the kids love and use daily. And China controls the content on it.

[-] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The zoomers are alright 🫡

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago

Unfortunately, the CPC can't really control private corporate apps like TikTok abroad. As with the Palestine-Israel conflict on TikTok, it's not the algorithm, teens are just more pro-Palestine and pro-China.

The Chinese version of the app Douyin is far more strictly regulated though.

[-] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Maybe young people don't care about starting a new cold war after the last one went to shit 🤔.

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[-] hark@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

It worked on you, that's for sure.

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[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Recent polling from The Economist and YouGov shows the startling difference in Americans’ views of China by age group. Roughly 25% of Americans aged 18 to 44 said they view China as an enemy, compared with about 52% of those 45 and over (see chart). Almost as many young Americans said they view China as “friendly” as those who said the country was an “enemy”. Just 4% of older Americans see China as friendly.

Meanwhile, views of China among partisans are shifting. Republicans have long been more likely than Democrats to view China as an adversary. But both parties have become more hawkish. When Donald Trump took office in 2017, just 10% of Democrats and 20% of Republicans said they believed China to be an enemy. As of last week, 34% of Democrats and 48% of Republicans took this view.

[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 6 months ago

The wording on this is kinda weird, enemy to who?

Do I think China is an enemy of the US? Yes.

Do I think they're an enemy to me personally and my values? Ehhh... not really. They do stuff I like and stuff I don't like.

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