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[–] CaptainHowdy@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago

This is normalized already. I would call out a friend or relative for these things. I do hold people close to me accountable for things I deem "poor behavior".

But also, how normalized should it be to judge people? Your coworker doesn't show up to church every Sunday? Shun them at work. Found out a new friend doesn't see their family because they used to have substance abuse problems? Cut them off. Neighbors don't speak English? Call ice. Your friend converted to Islam and now wears a hijab? Confront her husband.

I'm sure this will get downvoted, but I just wanna point out that people all have different values and openly judging or criticizing people for their lives can lead to the sorts of echo chambers and social bubbles we see today.

[–] alexquiniou@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

First thing to do is talking. Then act according to their response

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

If we all did this the narcissists would have no power left

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They would still have their manosphere podcasts

[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

So it's actually gender discrimination.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I feel bad for them

They can use my razor blades to end their suffering

It's the least I can offer those poor, tragic souls

[–] thevoidzero@lemmy.world 23 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Ostracizing used to work because we needed community. Now they will just go on the Internet and find hundreds if not thousands pro approve what they're doing.

And whatever the "village" did for a person can be bought with money. And people don't really do free work for you anyway, maybe your immediate family but that's about it. So people are more and more individualistic.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

While I agree that it's lost a lot of its power. Social pressure is still good at making people uncomfortable in the current setting. And can pressure them into leaving or avoiding that situation in the future.

[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 10 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Married people bring sude pieces to family events? Thats fucking wild. Not terribly surprising, but wild.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

That aint normal in Murica. At least not at the bbqs I go to.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I used to work with a married guy who brought his girlfriend to company parties. He was so open about it, I wondered if his wife knew and was okay with it.

[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

I work with a guy and him and his wife are definitely in an open relationship, I barely know the guy and I'm fully aware of this fact however there are people that have worked with this guy for nearly a decade and they whisper about it, like yeah she knows, y'all are idiots.

[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Work parties also seems super weird, but bbq makes me think friends and family. Of course if the married couple is open or whatever then sure.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 17 points 22 hours ago

The balls of someone bringing their side piece to a BBQ. There are families and friends that wouldn't call out that shit? I mean I get one or two but a whole BBQ of ppl?

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Also, if you've ever said "how I raise my kids is my business", you might be a shit parent

[–] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Depends on context, too. Counter-point, for example: "You let your boy wear pink? He's gonna be a sissy." "You should take your kids to the church the rest of us go to." "She/he's too young/old to do ___." I could imagine a few good reasons to tell people to mind their own business.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I do this with Trump supporters in my family.

Not trump voters, Trump supporters. To this day, they don't regret their vote, and they actively support.

Human garbage.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tbh, anyone who voted for him a second time is equally as bad. They saw the first round and weren't mortified.

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[–] KassioAug@piefed.social 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

That's a stupid take. If you 'normalize shaming' (which, to be fair, is quite common nowadays unfortunately) for things you don't agree with, you will make your own life miserable, and people will hate you for a good reason.

Sure you should talk to friends and family when you see them acting problematic, nothing wrong with that. But shaming people for things you THINK you understand (when you most certainly don't) is the fastest way to push people away.

[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

It's a correct take if you have an audience of strangers though. So it's not that bad when it comes from a social media post like this.

Calling out behavior is better at shaping a community than moderation behind closed doors

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

"side piece" being problematic in itself, there are many who would use this wrongly.

A family who sees someone with a partner they don't approve of, the extremely religious not accepting divorce/remarriage etc

[–] WaxRhetorical@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

Don't worry, a lot of these people are already very vocal about this, they don't need some post online to start being shitty.

[–] chrislowles@lemmy.zip 5 points 22 hours ago

And isn't the entire internet just a giant indifferent shaming machine now? Like I get the desire to right wrongs and whatnot but it's not like the general consensus around cheating or being a deadbeat is positive.

[–] GardenGeek@europe.pub 1 points 22 hours ago

Shame was from the beginning of man kind one of the most powerful tools of the community/ society to hedge in antisocial behaviors.

This being said there first needs to be sentient consensus on what is anti social behavior shared within the affected community... and that's what we're apparently lacking currently. Robbing millions of americans of the means to life peaceful and fullfilling lives and raping kids seems to acceptable to at least a third of the population.

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[–] EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.app 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the expectation that you cut off your friends when they do something you don't like is a little out of control though... I've definitely lost friends over the way they treat their children but there are some steps before that imo.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah, like talk to them. Which is in OP's main point.

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