you should have probably put american small town cops as title. Cops have actual training in europe and other places and speed limits or road safety can't be compared either. In the small town I live in cops are very down to earth and are generally fair unless you are being an asshole. Our laws are made so the fine is comparable to the % of speed over the limit and cops don't care much unless you are 5-10% above the limit. This means they go after you if you drive with your head under the arm in cities, but you can go a little above on the highway. We also have car regulation so you don't drive deathtraps that are a safety hazards to OTHER people. Which is why the shit cybertruck is not legal in EU and never will be.
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A small town near me got in deep shit for being small town assholes recently. That and embezzlement. This town is on a major highway to Myrtle Beach. They also prided themselves on the "safety" and "smallness" of their town, while also preying on vacationers.
Their municipal police police would aggressively enforce the speed limits. Every time I had to go through there you'd see someone running speed at nearly every speed zone change. As little as one to two mph over would get you an interaction with them. They also would issue tickets for far more than was normal. Up to 10 over was easily a $400 ticket, when most places would only do $150. They were also kind and polite about it. They'd offer to take payment right then and eliminate the speeding points. Which was the issue.
If you paid there they wouldn't report the ticket. Or the cash. The town kept the money; the town was making about a million a year. You were fined under a safety ordinance and not traffic law. They were also supposed to share portions with the county and state, but didn't. They argued that it was not a traffic violation. This town of barely 700 people had fifteen police just running speed traps.
They eventually were found out, and the municipal police department was heavily curtailed. The county manages speed through there and is nowhere as aggressive about it.
I never understood why americans seem to feel entitled to drive illegally fast over an already heavily overestimated speed limit on their humongous death machines they call cars.
Speed limits in the U.S. aren't set to any specific standard. 6 lane divided highways and laneless rural roads carry the same speed limit.
Speeds limits are known for being way too high in that country.
Speed limits are routinely posted 30-50% below the actual "maximum safe speed" in my neck of the woods. The US is many things, but it's far from homogenous
It really depends on what you mean by too high. The standard speed limits we have are fine. The road design is not.
It's never very clear in the US if the speed limit is locally a thing, a suggestion, or completely ignored. As a visitor, it's always problematic. I wish they got that sorted out.
When I first went to the US, the unrealistically low speed limits were one of the first things I noticed when driving.
I kinda assumed that this is by design so that police can pull over anyone they feel like since virtually everyone drives over the speed limit in some areas as it is so ridiculously low.
The way speeds are decided are rather ridiculous too. If I recall in some places (ahem: suburbia), it's some kind of consensus of local landowners.
So they'll set the speed limit to 35 mph along a ridiculously long and straight road with nothing on either side but suburb entrances and sidewalks.
The limits in my city are such that going 10 over is usually no big deal. It's weird.
Because also if you stuck exactly to that limit, everyone drives dangerously around you because they'd go faster driving a horse and buggy lol.
In the US, there is the "85th percentile rule" that says the speed limit can't be lower than the speed 85% of the traffic travels on that road. It's not always followed, but is a factor I've heard cited in speed limit discussions several places I've lived, mostly as an argument against traffic calming measures for pedestrian safety. But to my understanding, the law implies that if enough people decide not to follow the speed limit, it could theoretically be deemed legally too low and would need to be increased.
Yeah, I live in small-town US where many residents have complained about speeding in areas with heavy pedestrian use. In response, the local PD was quoted on the front page of the paper saying they don't have time to enforce speed limits. A few years later and they were again on the front page saying that they don't have time or equipment to enforce parking regulations. So here they're somewhere between suggestion and completely ignored, but the next town over is filled with speed cameras and highway patrol sitting in wait to meet their quota...both towns on the same road.
don't have time
TF are they doing, then?!
Figuring out ways to look understaffed so they can get more officers...around that time their call volume "doubled" over a year because they changed how they tracked calls. (Accounting for that, it was roughly the same.) But they used that to ask for another officer...and I assume they probably even need another one if we want them to do speed enforcement.
Sucking up overtime while asleep at home.
It is a thing. Now, locals might be ignoring it, but that's because they know where it is unlikely they will get caught. If you're not a local it is better to keep it or at most drive the same speed as everyone else.
I've been in Poland recently and the speed signs seem to be designed to make very hard to maintain them, like they want to have easy way to ticket anyone.
Like you're driving, there's 70km/h then 50 then 70, then 90, then 50 (pedestrian crossing, it is always 50) then 90 and all within short distance. I noticed that many drivers either go faster over 50 zones or if they in 90 zone go slower so they don't have to reduce speed from 90 to 50.
In US (or at least in California) seems to be more stable. So you have 35mph on roads, 25 on residential areas (usually you don't go through them unless you're reaching your destination) and 65 on freeway. There might be some signs that modify the speed (make it higher or lower depending on condition of the road) but it feels justified.
I also visited Czechia and their speed limits seem to be more reasonable and easier to follow.
There are small towns in the US whose existence depends on traffic tickets. They would wheel traffic signs out after an out of state car passed.
Actually this reminded me when I was toward such a small town via local freeway. There was a car that visibly tried to upset drivers driving slow when they tried to pass it they sped up. After observing it for a while I noticed there was a cop car driving in front. As soon as the freeway ended and transitioned into residential area the cop car drove into first parking lot and went the opposite way back to freeway, the car that tried to upset drivers followed them and did the same maneuver. At that point it was clear they were working together.
Small town cops looking for 1% less white skinned people and even a hint of a foreign accent.
The town had 250 people and 50 police officers.
$4,000 in tickets pwr person??
Jfc 😅
half of the department’s 50 officers "had been suspended, demoted, terminated or dishonorably discharged from their previous law enforcement jobs," the station said, citing personnel records obtain under a Freedom of Information request.
The shocking part is where it says that's only 5X the cops for a town that size. Wtf? One or two should suffice in a town that small. We have a town here with just over a thousand, and they have no city cops at all.
10 cops means 1-2 on shift at a time, once you figure in days off, needing people working 24 hours a day, a leadership position or two, and people out sick/vacation, 10 people isn't as many as it sounds.
However, even 10 is a huge amount for a town of 250. I think most towns of 1-2k people generally don't have a department and usually rely on county police.
I lived in a town like this (USA). We had no cops and the fire department was volunteer only. I recall a house burning down to the cement foundation over a couple hours, fire dept came by to put out the ruins. No one was hurt.
Can't imagine having 2 cops in that town, let alone 50. No money.
The post office used to be in the same building as the bank (until the bank burnt down). They moved into the lower floor of a house.
Yeah, I had a town of 15k and 5 miles up the road we had one around 300. They just contracted ours out. 300 peoples' taxes is not a lot, why waste it on police who will what, catch that one kid every once in a while, or have to throw a drunk out of the only bar? Not worth it.
always been the opposite for me. Cops in my small towns legit let teens drive without their licences and shit lol
Those are prolly local kids they know. You only ding out of towners.
Oh no! The police aren't busy with more serious laws so they focus on the only laws people are breaking at the moment!
Why does this mean they suck, exactly? If you want to drive fast, drive on roads designed for fast driving.
No sympathy to drivers of objectively environmentally worse modes of transportation unwilling to follow traffic laws.
Sure... but 2 miles per hour over the limit? Even the greatest drivers sometimes or frequently go 2 miles per hour over the limit.
That's a huge part of why some of these towns stay afloat. Your ticket is revenue for their population 12 town. It's for sure a racket. I still remember the $500 ticket I got in Beaver, Utah for going 10 over...
Brookville Indiana.
Got busted drinking a beer while canoeing. While doing my community service, the locals told us the bend in the river with the guy drinking at a picnic table was actually a cop. He cheers every boat going down the river and if you cheers back, he radios you description down river to his buddies and they pull you out of the river.
There was another group in our "substance abuse class" that said they were camping and lit a joint around the camp fire and the local police came out of the woods in tactical gear and night vision goggles to cite them.
Fuck that place
It's legalized banditry.
Here in Minnesota we have several "Speed Trap Towns" along country roads and highways with 50+ mph speed limits where suddenly the speed limit drops to 30 and there's a cop hiding behind the bush.
And big town cops... and medium town cops. Goddammit cops, ruining towns for everyone!