If the files told anything, it's that eating human flesh is one of the gazillionaire's delicacies.
"Quotes"
Say things that aren't your words.
Hey, hey, hey. Don't equate cannibalism with that heinous shit
I would absolutely try cannibalism, if I had consent from the person and they were going to die anyways, and it was prepared by a professional chef... And I had some salt in case it was too bland
Oh great, now they're going to start eating women, too.
Gonna get really confusing re-checking if a dude means he ate her out or ate her out.
Start?
I'd say teach men that they can easily get love from women
I think that cannibalism is acceptable in extreme circumstances.
That other shit though can fuck all the way off.
Yeah, maritime survival, stranded in the woods, etc, it happens a lot. I'd bet that every life death situation regarding starvation always turns to canablism.
What a terrible analogy. Cannibalism can be, arguably, justified. Starving people will do things to survive. I don't really care what happens to my body after I die and don't hold dead bodies to be especially sacred. I can consent to being eaten after I die.
There's no argument, no circumstances, no valid logic that can say rape is ok.
By your own logic, that justifies canabalism if you're dead, you're justifying the rape of your corpse.
This is one of those replies that misses the forest for the trees.
Except not really cause men love to argue about semantics and technicallities. So the metaphor should be man proof as well as accurate.
This comment is a sweeping generalization, and still qualifies as sexist. Being deliberately misandristic isn’t going to help anyone.
it certainly helps bring awareness to the fact that men are literally trained from birth to provide responses such as these to downplay women's experiences.
believe it or not, many men are not aware of this, and think they are being clever or playing devils advocate, when in reality, it aims to invalidate entire scenarios on a "technicality".
honestly if you think a proven statement like men invalidating women's experiences is sexist or is misandry you should probably take a step back and realize you're one of them.
I see your point and I am tempted to refute it but I don't have any way to do so without giving you the sensation I'm an horrible person
I never understood why human and social interactions isn't an obligatory course on schools all over the world. Not just how yo treat women, but how to treat anyone, doesn't matter their gender, skin color, etc..
But that might make you less of an exploiter. Maybe even a communist. You don't want that, do you?
That would be part of learning Critical Thinking Skills, which conservatives oppose, because they feel it teaches children to resist authority, which it does.
Turns out compromising with the 'make things worse' ideology makes them worse.
I think it should be a normal part of everyone's upbringing at home, and if there's something like that at school, it would only be in addition to that.
One time in a "religion" course, which was more abstract than usual, we had those ethics lessons. It wasn't about typical Christian religion or anything like that, just about ethics. I think that would make a nice course by itself. It was a derivation about just doing "decent" human stuff.
I took Anthropology of Religion 101 in community college and it would be my pick for "things that should be taught in high school that aren't even remotely mentioned". It covered ethics from a social angle that is very relatable. Runner up would be basic household accounting.
My husband saw this quote and his immediate response was “No. Cannibalism has no personal place in our minds. Young men need to be socialized in such a way that rape is as obscene as castration.”
Bestiality is another good option imo.
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Well we kill and eat animals so by that logic... I don't think you'd want to go there.
I’m not sure that’s an argument you want to make.
Well sadly many societies still engage in forced castration or genital mutilation
Look man..... This ain't a fair comparison. How's a guy to eat the rich when you compare it to rape so casually!?
How about we feed the rich to literal pigs? A nice cruel irony to enjoy.
I never thought about it that way. There's nothing physically stopping cannibalism, so it's horrifying to us due to almost ubiquitous social pressure.
So clearly we have the capability to make these changes and society just doesn't see it as important. Maybe that should give me hope but honestly this just makes me more disgusted.
There isn't exactly a physical/psychological base drive to eat other people though. People desire sex. They do not generally desire eating someone, and are generally well fed. If you took a sample of everyone who has ever been starving to death, I think you would find a much higher preponderance of cannibalism.
Not disagreeing necessarily, just pointing out that there is a slightly different reason for the two things happening.
You don't feel an urge to just take a little nibble?
I think this is out of touch.
Literally every young man you go ask will confidently affirm "of course rape is bad"
The issue is they don't know what counts as rape.
"What if theyre really into you but also really drunk, but asks you to have set with them?"
"What about if theyre seventeen and you are nineteen but you are their coach?"
"What if you are both super high?"
"What if she says no at first but after you are persistent for an hour and she gives up and lets you have sex with her"
"What if you are both adults but you are her manager at work?"
Theres a lot of scenarios that are, indeed, rape, but a lot of young men would be shocked to learn that count.
I think some of your examples are poor. Managers and co-workers can hook up if they are consenting. Yes the manager has power over them, but especially in a big company that power isn't majorly significant. Its also possible the underling is sleeping with the manager consentually for their own benefit and gain. Power dynamics can be bad but are not inherently rape.
Now that manager starts using raises, prefered shifts or whatever else to gain sex, thats a different story.
For inedbriation like if we are both super high, first time is questionable, but sexual partners that have been together for years and get high every day? Probably okay in most scenarios.
Absolutely not consistent, I know some people who think manager/employee is terrible. You're kind of pushing your own narrative on this and assuming the general public feel the same
Terrible does not equal rape. It can be bad while still being consentual.
I never said all of my examples were rape, merely that young men would struggle and argue over which is which, because of a lack of education.
Many young and even grown men will even argue zero of the examples are rape (definitely incorrect)
Which is imo the real issue. This should be pretty decidedly taught in schools so both men and women grow up knowing what rape even is.
The way you phrased your comment didn't make that clear. It reads as if you are listing scenarios that count as rape, not factors that should be considered.
I suspect this is not consistent across jurisdictions or fields.
Pretty sure I've seen the 'both parties super high on the regular -> still rape' in several trainings, for eg.
If both parties being high is an exclusive factor for rape then nearly every couple I know is raping each other weekly. It does depend on the context and relationship but as i said in my original comment, an established stoner couple is usually able to consent while stoned. Its not the same as getting someone stoned for the first time and taking advantage of them.
For example I'm fine having sex while I'm stoned, however i wouldn't consent to it while high on physchedlics. My partners consent and condition would of course ve important there as well. If i learned being stoned was akin to being blackout for them, i wouldn't feel comfortable or confident in their consent.
Its probably taught so that when in doubt you just don't do it.