"Just let us be criminals!"
Lol seriously wtf.
this post was submitted on 14 Jul 2026
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That's basically the entire administration in a nutshell.
Not just this US administration, see the The Hague Invasion Act.
on Monday, Marco Rubio, the US secretary of state, claimed that the court “threatens every aspect of our political and legal system”
The logical conclusion is that Marco Rubio believes every aspect of the US political and legal system has essential personnel that are involved in genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes or the crime of aggression, which are the crimes the ICC pursues. He is well positioned to know such things. It would be well to heed his advice.
They probably mostly do. Far too many higher ups in the federal government gargle Israel's balls.
That's what's actually happening at the wall, it's actually netanyahu sitting in one of them Pope chairs where they check their balls. Just the perception filters. Keep us from seeing what's really happening
Do you think there was a point in nazi Germany during ww2 where people were like oh fuck these guys are Nazis(perjorative)
Nationalism and racism are powerful influences that obviously swayed many, but I believe, like now, there were also some who understood how evil the regime was. But living in a totalitarian police state is dangerous and many are inhibited from doing what they should, which is really the point of a totalitarian police state: to ensure people do what they're told rather than what they should.
I mean I'm currently so tied up in working to keep the rent paid that I'm not doing shit except talking shit about ice on the internet and putting up stickers
Oppression, in all its forms. Once established, it's not easy to overcome.
If you spoke out against the Nazis, you would have ended up in a concentration camp and people knew that. So few actually did something. However you have some interesting statistics, like for example that there was a massive drop of children being named "Adolf" in Germany in 1942.
The US literally isn't even subject to it...
Other countries who are subject to it are trickig/bribing trump into this.
Except that if the ICC issues arrest warrants for US officials, then any country that is subject to the court, is now obligated to arrest those people if they ever set foot in those countries.
It creates a rather inconvenient conflict of interest amongst US allies. Do they fulfill their obligations to the court? Or do they look the other way, and allow international criminals to walk free in their country?
You're also forgetting that the US has a law that says they would invade the Hague if any American soldier or official is arrested. Also the way the bill is written they would also do it if Netanyahu was arrested since it mentions allies too.
Oh, shit. You're right...I did forget about that. That's so unbelievably fucked up.
Yep.
Like I was saying, it's not just trump is doing it, it's that it's one of the few things that doesn't directly benefit him.
Either he got bribed to do it for Bibi, or Bibi just fucking elder abused him again and fucking lied and said Trump could be tried under the ICC.
Either way it's extra fucked even for 2026.
Except that if the ICC issues arrest warrants for US officials, then any country that is subject to the court, is now obligated to arrest those people if they ever set foot in those countries.
That’s already failed because I’m pretty sure that several countries have said that they won’t arrest Netanyahu.
Like they do for Benjamin netenyahoo
I doubt it. Bibi won't let Trump sick his dick cause he's all upset about that warrant, and as we know from the Epstein files, Trump just loves slobbering on that cock. 😝
So...
You think Israel (another country) is manipulating trump into this...
And that made you disagree with my point:
Other countries who are subject to it are trickig/bribing trump into this.
Right but you didn’t say it the same way they said it so you are wrong, clearly. ~/s~
One more batshit crazy thing to distract from the fact that Donald Trump fucks kids.
Yeah the distractions are coming so frequently, I now assume the Epstein files place him explicitly raping under-10s. He won't let us see that content so what else van we assume at this point? It's clearly the worst scenario or he wouldn't be working this hard to stop that conversation.
The US (and Republicans more specifically) has been threatening the ICC for a long time. Many sanctions were placed on ICC prosecutors and judges before the Epstein files were even a thing.
After the next presidential election, the US should accede to Rome Statue and dump this loser on the steps of the ICC. Might as well nab Bibi as well, Maduro-style.
The ironic thing is that by the time his second term is over, this probably would be the only legal play left to the USA to actually get him inside a prison.
If the ICC is known for anything, it's the completely broken pre-trial process.
Could also just drop him off in Iran...
After all, every 'official act' is legal and beyond reproach now, and diplomatic gifts are certainly official acts.
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I want to be wrong. But, as an American I see most of European leaders basically responding to American fascism with "dude, we cant do that yet. People would burn shit".
I guess I feel like Europe is watching and shaking its head at America but not really organizing to remove the leaders that will bend the knee to capitalist interest once they are comfortable enough to supress any resistance.
I feel like the fascist sentiment is there in a lot of leadership that is just trying to keep the ideas of liberal democracy around as long as they can.
I think this type of push from the US will show us a lot. Like, are we really expecting Germany to arrest Netanyahu? I just don't see anything coming materially in resisting American fascist. A few exceptions, Spain to a small degree.
You can actually see a number of things happening. However European countries are deeply into the US hegemonic system and have benefited from it for years. Cutting it would hurt Europe a lot and they also really want some US support against Russia. So the solution is to be somewhat nice to the US, while slowly building up systems to replace the pieces of US influence.
We can already see that. The EU has signed a lot of trade deals since Trump started his trade wars. That does not work over night, but will move EU trade towards other countries. There are also things like the digital euro to replace Visa and Mastercard, which would cause a lot of issues, if they are removed in the EU. As well as moving away from US software. This is done especially quickly by the armed forces.Fossil fuels are also replaced with green alternatives, which is key as those are a massive US export. You also see a massive rearming, to be able to handle Russia easily without US support. If Russia looses, then the EU would be in an actually very good geostrategic position on that.
This is the sort of stuff, which somebody like Trump can not really understand. As in really bureaucratic, not flashy at all and somewhat slow.
I think this type of push from the US will show us a lot. Like, are we really expecting Germany to arrest Netanyahu?
The truth is that Netanyahu is just not going to travel to Germany as long as the ICC tries to arrest him. He is 78, so going to die soon anyway.
So the solution is to be somewhat nice to the US, while slowly building up systems to replace the pieces of US influence.
I think this is good. But I think Europes plan to attempt to be "a third power" will just inevitably make them choose a side. And I don't have faith that that would be against American Fascism. The "distancing" from the US and the hardening of military feels as though it is just leading into building up infrastructure near the territories that WW3 is being fought.
The average European rightfully sees Russia as a power to condemn and protect themselves from. But, this goes 10x more for America. "It is dangerous to be America's enemy but it is fatal to be America's allies". Ukraine has not been helped by America. Hell, our own politicians openly speak about how great it is that we are hurting Russia without a single American soldier dying. America would do this to all of Europe if it had the chance.
He is 78, so going to die soon anyway.
Evil never dies. He'll live for awhile and be replaced with someone even worse. And it's not about whether he actually travels to Germany. It's that IF he did; Germany would not arrest him. That's my point. Europe seems to want to pretend that it's still upholding "international law" but has not actually been tested on enforcing it. That test WILL happen one way or another. And when something happens, and that law is not enforced, that's when the entire illusion falls apart.
America is just admitting to its own fascist and selfish interests and recognizing that these laws are just "ideas". American leaders are just saying out loud that they won't follow those ideas. European leaders want to keep pretending for as long as possible.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Europe will enforce these laws against American and Israeli heads of state. But, they haven't yet. And I don't expect it. I hope I'm wrong.
European countries are not a monolith, there are conservatives, progressives, and neo-nazis just like the US. Europe benefits from having more stable checks and balances and better general education compared to the US, as well as the benefits of hindsight to see what is happening/happened in the US, UK, Hungary, Turkey, Russia, and Ukraine.
For what it's worth, a majority of European countries are in favor of sanctioning Israeli settlers. However, there is a lot of anxiety about defending Europe from Russia, and the Israel, the US, and Turkey are some if the biggest contributors to European security. But things are changing. NATO is rearming, and Ukraine is shaping up to be the world's most desirable security partner.
Yeah, you're right. And the worst part is that many of us saw this coming a decade ago. The techno-fascism, the race for AI, the new wars. They've been telegraphing it. But Europe is all about culture war and immigration.
Progressives are dejected. We just shake our heads, complain, and let it happen. We need grassroots organization but nobody believes it can be done. We're too small to change anything, so let's just let the devils run amok and destroy the only planet we have.
That's a good way to put it. It feels like Europe is in its post Obama era. Like you didn't go through Woke 1.0 and purge all the radlib culture war stuff from any of the left.
I guess it makes sense that when I talk to Europeans that are "left" it feels like I'm back in 2015 trying to explain to liberals that Clinton is a war monger that will lose to Trump and they're just calling me sexist.
I think the Ukraine invasion by Russia really broke a lot of brains and fueled nationalism as well. But mentioning that to Europeans just makes them label you "pro Putin". It's the same "I can't hear what you're saying" response I got back in 2015 in America.
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I'm not in disagreement with your general thesis. However I stand by my statement that your occupy the epicenter of the capitalist monster.
We have a saying that what happens politically in the US will happen here in 15 years time. That's not totally true. You guys have borne witness to stuff we have never seen. Mass lynching, repeated political assassinations, gun violence, extreme gerrymandering, and the like. This isn't a critique ( you do you) it's a simple observation. But neither is it a prediction of what will necessarily happen here. You have fairly unique circumstances. One is the belief in American exceptionalism. Only Americans share that belief.
Europe tends to be pragmatic in the modern era. We will wait out this insanity and reroute circuits around the damage. As I said in my first response. I would look inwards for a solution right now, if I were you. We are actively doing the same, which will become apparent to Wall Street in about half a decade from now.
The opposition Democrats haven't said anything about this afaik. They are being complicit.
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