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[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can actually see a number of things happening. However European countries are deeply into the US hegemonic system and have benefited from it for years. Cutting it would hurt Europe a lot and they also really want some US support against Russia. So the solution is to be somewhat nice to the US, while slowly building up systems to replace the pieces of US influence.

We can already see that. The EU has signed a lot of trade deals since Trump started his trade wars. That does not work over night, but will move EU trade towards other countries. There are also things like the digital euro to replace Visa and Mastercard, which would cause a lot of issues, if they are removed in the EU. As well as moving away from US software. This is done especially quickly by the armed forces.Fossil fuels are also replaced with green alternatives, which is key as those are a massive US export. You also see a massive rearming, to be able to handle Russia easily without US support. If Russia looses, then the EU would be in an actually very good geostrategic position on that.

This is the sort of stuff, which somebody like Trump can not really understand. As in really bureaucratic, not flashy at all and somewhat slow.

I think this type of push from the US will show us a lot. Like, are we really expecting Germany to arrest Netanyahu?

The truth is that Netanyahu is just not going to travel to Germany as long as the ICC tries to arrest him. He is 78, so going to die soon anyway.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

So the solution is to be somewhat nice to the US, while slowly building up systems to replace the pieces of US influence.

I think this is good. But I think Europes plan to attempt to be "a third power" will just inevitably make them choose a side. And I don't have faith that that would be against American Fascism. The "distancing" from the US and the hardening of military feels as though it is just leading into building up infrastructure near the territories that WW3 is being fought.

The average European rightfully sees Russia as a power to condemn and protect themselves from. But, this goes 10x more for America. "It is dangerous to be America's enemy but it is fatal to be America's allies". Ukraine has not been helped by America. Hell, our own politicians openly speak about how great it is that we are hurting Russia without a single American soldier dying. America would do this to all of Europe if it had the chance.

He is 78, so going to die soon anyway.

Evil never dies. He'll live for awhile and be replaced with someone even worse. And it's not about whether he actually travels to Germany. It's that IF he did; Germany would not arrest him. That's my point. Europe seems to want to pretend that it's still upholding "international law" but has not actually been tested on enforcing it. That test WILL happen one way or another. And when something happens, and that law is not enforced, that's when the entire illusion falls apart.

America is just admitting to its own fascist and selfish interests and recognizing that these laws are just "ideas". American leaders are just saying out loud that they won't follow those ideas. European leaders want to keep pretending for as long as possible.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Europe will enforce these laws against American and Israeli heads of state. But, they haven't yet. And I don't expect it. I hope I'm wrong.