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[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 66 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Proof that rich people ain't the smarter

[–] dumnezero@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

Money is wasted on the rich.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Every step you take further from reality, ie surrounding yourself with yes men, the dumber you get. This i promise you.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 53 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I reckon that, on average, they're stupider.

Having enough money means that mistakes have lower consequences. Which leads to having fewer opportunities to learn an important lesson.

E.g. caused an accident by driving unsafely. Poor: can't afford insurance, can't pay, lose car, lose job. Rich: use oyher car. End result: rich person doesn't learn to drive safely.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Related. I had a rich older lady rear-end me once in her Mercedes coupe. Low speed in traffic moving through an intersection - but enough damage that I could see insurance would have to get involved. Cars in front of me are gridlocked, I get out and ask her if she's ok.

She says, "why did you stop?!". I'm a sarcastic bitch so I said - "see those cars in front of me? I can't drive through them." Her: "you hit my car!". Me: "uhhhhh (brain loading).. I was stationary, and in front of you. How can i have hit you?". Her: .. Me: "Look, the damage isn't bad, it's no big deal - insurance can sort it out. Accidents happen."

Her in her most patronising private school accent she could muster, "I don't have accidents".

Gotta admit that one threw me. I'd never heard that level of privilege, simply defying reality. We pulled aside when traffic started moving and she called her husband and handed the phone to me (I guess he's the fixer in the relationship).. he was more reasonable and we got details exchanged etc, but that conversation stuck with me.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Yep, it’s that reality distortion field that really makes it special and creepy, not least because their greater wealth allows them to support the distorted sense of reality, while also likely demanding more of it so that they can fit in with their wealthy social class.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

Cops tend to believe whomever is whiter, then whomever is richer.

[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

They just live in a complete different world,a world where any other human being around is there to serve them

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 11 points 2 days ago

She doesn't have accidents - all her collisions are on purpose.

[–] jimmux@programming.dev 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's a survivorship bias at work too. Getting rich requires taking big risks. Smart people will know that odds of success are very low, so likely not worth the payoff. Stupid people are more likely to go for it, the vast majority will fail, but we only really see the successes.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The fuck it involve risk. Getting truly rich, like being a owner class and living from earnings, takes as much skill and luck as winning the lottery.

[–] jimmux@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't that what I meant? Smart people are less likely to play the lottery because it probably won't provide a return. Buying regular lottery tickets hoping you'll eventually win is high risk.

[–] moustachio@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They didn’t take a risk to get rich, most were just born rich. I think that’s what they meant by “got lucky.”

[–] jimmux@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah makes sense. I meant "get rich" more in the rags to riches sense, but could have been clearer.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ya don't gotta think when you got money!

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

"I paid for AI to tell me to invest in AI. What could go wrong?"

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And the real cost of running AI still isn't factored in.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I hope they all eventually get sued into the ground by environmentalists and protection agencies.

[–] FoxAlive@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I hope they get in trouble for all their crimes and the ceos have to spend the maximum possible sentence in prison with no parol before 100 years.

Theres fraud, generation of csam, verbal sexual abuse of minors, murder, spying on civilians without a warrant, war crimes on children in Gaza so trump can build a hotel there, assisting in the creation and running of internment camps. And that's ignoring the glaringly obvious issues like the theft of pretty much all intellectual properties, or price fixing on rent, food, etc.

With the amount of crimes ai is responsible for we might as well set up some kind of trial, similar to Nuremberg for elon musk, Sam Altmann, mark zuckerburg, etc etc.

In cyberpunk if ceos are found guilty they are sentenced to death. In China when you become too big for your own good you don't get welcomed into the boys club with open arms. They kill you and take your shit. We need more of that energy.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not even talking about externalized costs, but like, the basic cost of building and running data centers. They're still basically just burning investor cash, trying to reach escape velocity.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, everyone on the AI-train doesn't realize if they gain a dependency on AI from using a particularly model, the price of that model will just go up every year.

Enshittification is as predictable as gravity. These people are mentally no different than flat earthers.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And as DeepSeek showed, it isn't that hard to distill the great large AI model into something smaller that isn't controlled by a large AI company, making owning the compute made to build the model worthless.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm really wondering what the investment bankers are thinking on this. Everything they do is replicable.

If the rent gets too high, people will switch to cheaper models even if they're marginally less effective. And once a business starts running its own AI models on its own hardware, they're definitely not going to switch to a more expensive subscription.

There will never be an AI monopoly that will make back all the money they are burning trying to make a monopoly. I honestly don't get it it at all. I feel like the world has gone mad.

[–] FoxAlive@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They don't think, thats the problem and why we are here.

Or they are thinking really really hard and this is like many of the other articially juiced finical situations that let them rape and pillage the pockets of the average American. Just like how George sorros can flood currency values to control a market and profit off of the demise of others, I like to think every single financial crises going back 50+ years has been some kind of swindle that only the rich with enough money can benifit from.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I was just reading a summary from a book published in 2016 that talks about this:

Chapter 2, "Why the Technological System Will Destroy Itself", develops the author’s theory of "self-propagating systems"—systems that compete against each other for power without any regard for the long-term consequences, since any self-propagating systems that take the long-term into account will lose their competitive edge and be out-competed by self-propagating systems that do not. Kaczynski ultimately argues that since the technological system itself is a self-propagating system composed of self-propagating subsystems that competes for power in the short-term without regard for the long-term negative consequences, that the logical conclusion of the continued growth of the technological system is the complete destruction of the biosphere, wiping out all complex lifeforms.

[–] lemmyng@piefed.ca 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

"But I was told AI would never ask for a raise!"

[–] Tartufo@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It doesn't need to ask for a raise if it bankrupts you with the first bill.

[–] loaf@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stop teasing me with hope :,)

[–] Tartufo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

We could try and spread it as "trust me bro this happened at my cousin's company". Maybe we can manage to scare the managers. If we write often enough that some company got bankrupted from a single ai-company bill these statistics-based-word-vomit-programs are bound to eventually regurgitate this story and then people will start to believe it.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

'ai' won't. the greedy bastards you're renting time on it from will.

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

- Who told you that?

- Grok. Why?

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Futurism's writing isn't always spot on.

But their headlines are usually pretty good. This one's a banger.

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

Given what Facebook and Google did, it might be that the believed their own hype a bit too much.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We should replace execs for free with a polished pebble. Everybody loves pebbles, even otters!

[–] brainwashed@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They can still be found in nature. If you're quick, you can get one before the rush starts.

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

A CEO wouldn't... Nay couldn't possibly mislead another CEO just for profits sake... Right?

[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago

You love to see it.

"The consequences of my actions?!"

[–] aarch0x40@piefed.social 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Oh no! An exec may not get their bonus package?!

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 15 points 2 days ago

Now now, let's not be too hasty. They can probably make up for the cost by just doing some more layoffs. Or, in the worst case, getting a taxpayer bailout. No need to go around putting the sacred executive bonuses on the line.

[–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Oh they will, after they’ve ”successfully reduced spending” by firing the remainder of the staff. And then they’ll ”retire” (get booted) with a huge severance package.

[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's possible if the problem has a narrow solution space that's well defined, something like alpha fold but otherwise it's not yet currently possible to sufficiently replace workers, we don't actually have AGI yet, much less AGI that costs less than a flesh and blood employee.

[–] midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, that's just plain wrong. Alphafold is not an llm, it is not replacing any jobs. Nobody's job was folding proteins in every conceivable way. Without a doubt in my mind, alphafold is creating additional lines of research, which means more researchers, more grants, more papers to write. Nothing like that is happening with generative ai, and the continued insistence from ai bros that talking to a chatbot should also count as science is driving me up a wall.

[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Never claimed it was and LLM. People's job was through multiple means trying to discover the shape of proteins. There are a lot of ways to apply NN to take over labor people were doing before. Particularly with general purpose robotics but many other nonphysical tasks can similarly be automated, like searching a solution space.

The conflation of neural networks and large language models is the most common way I see people claim talking to chatbots as science. You know damn well what 'ai' means in this context: the article is about chatbots, not NN in general, certainly not robotics.

People's job was through multiple means trying to discover the shape of proteins

Oh, and they were replaced? The neural network publishes papers now? That's ridiculous. It's a tool that unlocks new science, no researcher is throwing up their hands like 'oh, whelp, guess alphafold is the future, no need for me anymore!'

Gish gallop response, just as I expected.

[–] AdamBomb@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

When will these lying dumbshits learn that all the other C-suits are lying dumbshits too?