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Bad take. They'll give you an install disc and then make you enter an account locked code to access it anyway.
Demand digital rights instead, before a big player goes bust. Because at some point that will happen, and you'll lose more than a handful of discs.
The opposite of "digital" is "analogue". Disks are just as digital as data downloaded from the internet.
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DRM is the issue not physical. No drm means I can just keep replicating my product when physical fails
Yeah that's my problem with it as well. People keep going "but steam does the same thing" but with steam I actually have the install on my computer, a computer which valve does not control and they cannot take things off me after the fact.
I believe you are thinking of GoG, not Steam.
Yesnt. Steam can absolutely remote remove your library.
They never did and probably won't do it. But they could
How can they do that? I'm curious
You agreed to it in the TOS
Sony and Microsoft say bad luck we are doing it anyway, and we know you will still buy our consoles.
wont this just push people to getting steam/valve
Steam can do the same. They can all do the same.
Yeah the big advantage of disc is Sony can't randomly take it away. And given the fact that they have literally just done that with a bunch of movies it's kind of a problem.
It would be trivial to add online only drm with a killswitch to physical media. If that's the problem, discs aren't the solution. What we actually need is legal protection for consumers.
I was already planning to abandon Sony even before they shot themselves in the foot (or leg? groin? time will tell I guess)
I bought the PS5 solely to play one specific game, but I still expected to get some other games. And I've gotten a few at least: The Finals is amazing, Baldur's Gate is amazing, Battlefield 6 is great... and that's about the end of my list.
The one specific game I bought the PS5 for, No Man's Sky, has tons of stuff you can do with mods and save editing. Same for Baldur's Gate as far as mods go. The Finals and BF6 are FPS games so no mods, but still... 100% of the games I like could just be played on PC instead, and 50% are significantly better for doing so.
In the last few generations of consoles / handhelds, Sony has:
There's so many reasons to ditch them even separately from the disc drama
Ahh yes, steam renowned for its physical media.
Hopefully it just keeps them using old consoles and punishing them by not buying the digital games.
But we all know everyone will just roll over.
The problem isn't digital the problem is digital only.
Obviously they mean that in a digital-only world, consoles are not worth it and gamers should just switch to PC.
I have sold my PS4 after what I felt an unjust price hike for PSN and built a pc, didn't buy a console since
My backlog is big enough and I'm old enough that I don't see a need to buy a new game for a long time.
Fight the establishment by getting kids addicted to old games.
Lol ask this same question on Tiktok and Instagram it'll probably swing 71% the other way
No one on those platforms buys games anyway. They're too busy playing mobile games.
"I'll miss buying physical games" is not exactly a measurement of outrage.
"Gamers push back." Just like they pushed back against $70 and $80 games by lining up around the block to buy a Switch 2 so they could buy $70 and $80 games to play on it. Like Rockstar will make a mint selling $100 copies of GTA6.
I suppose if any game is worth $100 it'll probably be a game from Rockstar. Personally I'm waiting for reviews since there's literally no point pre-ordering.
Man, I couldn't give two shits. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. What good is a disc when you're dead? I'm here for a good time, not for a collection of plastic boxes with shiny round discs in them, uh, time. I mean, who earnestly gives a flying fuck? These days most games discs are as good as a game-key anyway as you can't play the game before installing a massive day one patch.
It's only 8:00 where I am so it's possible I will read more stupid comment today but I wouldn't put money on it.
Have a nice day. Try not to get angry for no reason.
Don't make more moronic comments and I'll be happy
Your happiness is very fickle.
Most gamers have steam libraries and not a single disc to show for it. They're not sad about it....
You should burn your faux outrage to a goddamn disc and add it to your priceless collection.
Better than the padded cell you belong in
Why is it ok for PC to be all digital? I don't remember the last time I've even seen a physical version of a PC game. Everything is through steam, While console it's not ok? I can't remember the last time I purchased a disc version for xbox.
Like I used to have the physical versions of Deadpool and both marvel ultimate alliances but I lost the discs in a move I wish I could purchase them digitally again but that's about the only downside I've encountered with digital only is some license rights gets a revoked
They aren't closed ecosystems to the extent that consoles are. PC gaming isn't just Steam, and you're generally free to do what you'd like with the files once they're on your computer.
You can chase sales, modify and fix games, play online without a subscription, use your preferred controller, buy DRM free (or bypass DRM if you so choose), share and revive old games, etc.
I doubt I've covered everything, and (respectfully) I'm genuinely surprised that so many people still ask this question.
I've been thinking about this since the announcement from Sony. I see alot of friends complaining when I fully know they have massive steam libraries and no optical drives.
And I think it comes down too we have Steam. Steam is run by Valve a non public company with no shareholders. And Valve not only says but does. They keep things open and accessible. Game removed from Steam, that's file you can still download it and play. Things like GoG where you can get an offline installer. And we can pirate probably fits in There some where
But console you only have the maker and not a single one can be trusted. Sony removed movies and TV shows a couple times at this point.
And if you try to modify your console, they'll fuck your shit up.
A few things.
One is that steam frequently has actually cheap games more readily than the console digital stores.
Another is that if I'm buying a digital entitlement anyway, I'll go with the ecosystem with the greatest track record for long term compatibility. A game purchased 20 years ago on steam is still generally playable in brand new system. A PlayStation game purchased then is not playable on a new Sony system. It is in fact only playable on PC through emulation, so PCs have been covering for console incompatibly.
Once upon a time, consoles brought some unique values. Easy to plug into TVs, consistent gamepad experience, and just turn on and play.
Nowadays PC operating systems and console operating systems act the same, tv output is just HDMI, gaming controllers are well supported on PCs... The last reason to bother with the console gaming was the physical media. So while sure, they can go digital only, but then why bother with a console at all? They've already lost every other advantage.
I don't really game anymore after having almost a 40 year run. However, I used to regularly recommend going digital only up to several years ago. Then, store delisting started becoming more common and affecting games I previously played, so I completely gave up consoles and retracted all my recommendations.
