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[–] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

I think it is a great idea so long as the billionaires go there to stay with the data centres for maintenance purposes. They are the only geniuses who can do it!

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 24 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

As someone with actual experience working in datacenters, this shit needs constant maintenance and repair. You can't afford to pay for my travel expenses to reboot a server.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 4 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

There's a bunch of sealed underwater data centres and they found reliability went right up (see Project Natick). Underwater has the benefit of actually having cooling though ..

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Yet Microsoft abandoned the idea because it was so fraught with commercialisation issues. Which is exactly what the experts are saying

Can't maintain, can't upgrade, can't repair, it pollutes the environment with abandoned shit and it doesn't scale

Reliability probably went up because of the extra expense put into making sure it won't immediately fail and need to be repaired

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not saying the space data centres are a good or even viable idea, just saying you can improve the reliability significantly if you try. The space data centre planis a non starter, there's nowhere for the heat to go.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, investing in reliability will increase reliability

You can radiate the heat with a biiiig long radiator but it doesn't solve any of the other problems or improve commercial scalability

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

You may note that this thread is talking about data centre reliability ..

Also you can't radiate heat in space ..

[–] peeteer@feddit.org 2 points 6 hours ago

The ISS has 475m^2 of ammonia filled radiators that like to disagree with you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/External_Active_Thermal_Control_System

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 8 hours ago

You can ONLY radiate heat in space..

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 hours ago

Also you can’t radiate heat in space …

How does the Sun work?

[–] jungle@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Right, I'm sure the hard radiation will help with that as well.

[–] jungle@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

You can't reboot a server remotely? My vast experience having been in one collocation once made me think that surely in big datacentres each server has a remotely controllable switch on its power source, like something that comes integrated with the rack itself? Is that not a thing?

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You can't remotely replace hardware.

[–] jungle@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Did I say "replace"? Oh, sorry, I meant "reboot". Must have been distracted when I typed that. Silly me.

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

From experience, the remote "reboot" actuators sometimes they need to be rebooted themself

[–] jungle@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Well then you add a remote reboot switch for the reboot switch. Duh!

[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 54 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (16 children)

My new supervisor, the day I met him, was talking about how space data centers are a great idea ("because it's so cold up there!") and will be amazing when they're online. That's the moment I realized he was breathtakingly stupid. He may not believe in thermodynamics, but thermodynamics believes in him.

I guess I shouldn't have expected much given that he has a degree in finance and has worked in consulting for 10 years.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 39 points 19 hours ago (11 children)

I felt exactly the same way about Elon Musk back in 2018(?) when he went on the Late Show with Stephen Colbert, and said the easiest way to terraform Mara was to just nuke the polar ice caps...and voila...instant atmosphere.

I don't think I've ever palm-slapped my forehead that hard in my life. All of a sudden I knew he was just another fuckin' moron with way too much money to burn.

[–] belunos@lemmus.org 20 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Mars doesn't even have a magnetosphere, any atmosphere you create would fuck right off into space

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 14 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And even if it worked (and it would take a LOT of nukes to work) ... well, congrats: now Mars has an atmosphere -- a highly radioactive atmosphere.

Thanks to Mars's lack of a magnetic field, high radiation levels are already a concern. Adding even more radiation into the mix really isn't going to help any of your terraforming goals.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 11 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

And that's why we should just drop a few million cockroaches on Mars and let them figure it out! /s

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Great. And now a few years later, Earth is being invaded by highly advanced mutant cockroaches from Mars.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 points 6 hours ago

I wouldn't mind if they weren't fucking ugly

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[–] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 3 points 14 hours ago

If you make it fast enough it will stick around for a while. "A while" in planetary terms can be a few hundred thousand or million years. So it's possible you could produce sufficient atmosphere to make it breathable, and it would remain so for longer than human civilization up to now. Of course, by possible, I mean with the right tools and the resources to support that, which would be substantial. Feel free to find out how many comets you would have to impact into Mars to get that.

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[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 18 points 20 hours ago (12 children)

Everyone hyped on AI data centers is forgetting there's no air in space with which to conduct the heat away. A human body could take over 24 hours to freeze solid in space because the only option is for the heat to radiate.

Than there's the part where disposable rockets and satellites like starlink are literally destroying the ozone CFC style.

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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Meanwhile China already has data centers in the ocean. Almost anything they do you can bet it's a good idea [economically] because they're not at the point to where they can waste billions and still come out on top like the US has done for decades.

[–] ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Microsoft experimented with oceanic data centers too, and I don't believe they actually abandoned that project either. It's just Musk and his ilk are very loud and outsized loudness has a tendency to dominate public discourse.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 12 hours ago

It was concluded in 2024. MS called it a success but also discontinued research and expansion for reasons that don't seem clear from what I can find.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Natick

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