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article textEvery winter, Alan and Katie Donegan would avoid turning on the heating at their home in the south of England.

"Instead, we wore extra layers and used hot water bottles - we turned it into a game," says Alan. "It wasn't suffering, it was strategy."

While the couple admit that others thought they were "extreme" or "mad" to put so much emphasis on not spending money, Alan explains that they were "laser-focused on buying freedom".

By "freedom" he means early retirement, which the Donegans managed to achieve seven years ago when Alan was only 40, and Katie just 35.

The two rarely had takeaways and always took packed lunches to work. "We were £40,000 better off over 10 years from just that one lunch habit," says Alan.

"We even charged our phones while out and hunted for discarded Nectar [supermarket] vouchers. You can decide if that's crazy or genius, but it worked."

Alan had worked as a landscape gardener before launching a training and life-coaching business, while Katie was an actuary, or risk assessor, for a financial firm.

Aside from their good incomes, their extreme saving habits meant they were able to retire early - and they put as much money as they could possibly afford into investments.

"Every pound we invested was a step closer to the life we wanted," says Katie. They quit work after their savings hit £1m.

Alan and Katie are part of a small but growing global movement called Fire, which stands for "Financially Independent, Retire Early".

From a little-known concept 15 years ago, there are now almost a million members of the main Fire discussion board on social media site Reddit, and mainstream financial institutions now publish numerous guides on the topic.

The central tenet is that you live extremely frugally during your working life, so that you can retire as soon as possible.

For most of us, being able to quit working life early is just a dream. From the current high cost of living, to elevated property prices and student debt, we will be working longer not less. The statistics back this up.

Last year, average retirement ages in the UK hit record highs of 65.8 years for men and 64.7 for women, official data showed.

It is a similar situation in the US, where the average retirement age for men and women has increased steadily since the 1990s, to 64.8 and 63.3 respectively in 2025, according to one long-term study.

Yet Fire devotees such as 49-year-old Amy Minkley are committed to their goal. The American middle-school teacher was able to retire when she was just 44.

To help achieve this she worked abroad at international, private schools in Japan, Singapore, India and Thailand, where Minkley says she was able to earn more money and enjoy much lower living expenses than back home in Texas.

She also spent as little as possible. "I wasn't interested in keeping up with a certain expat lifestyle," says Minkley.

"I rarely bought expensive clothing, kept electronics until they gave out, cooked most of my meals at home, and paused before any significant purchase.

"Having a housemate while living in Singapore and India allowed me to save even more, and in several countries I didn't need a car, which kept my expenses low," she says.

Minkley now lives in Bali where her retirement income goes further than if she had moved back to the US.

Carol Schleif is chief market strategist at BMO Private Wealth, a Toronto-based financial advisory business.

She says that while Fire is "still doable" for many people, most of her clients are focused more on having balance in their working lives. So instead of rushing to retire as early as possible, they are focusing on combining a meaningful career with living within their means.

"If you retire early but don't have friendships, health or a sense of purpose, you've achieved one goal but sacrificed other things… you have to wonder if it's worth it," says Schleif.

"People are [instead] having a more flexible approach these days. They are trying to find ways to reach their retirement goals but also enjoy life."

Sarah Coles, head of personal finance at UK investment platform AJ Bell, warns that making the Fire philosophy work is increasingly challenging as most people simply cannot afford it.

Still, she says that several Fire principles are worthwhile, and can help people retire a little sooner, such as starting to save money as a young adult, and increasing your pension payments after every pay rise.

"A balanced path can get you the retirement you want, when you want it, without breaking your spirit. It just needs to be more nuanced and realistic," says Coles.

Within the Fire community, some are now following this less intense route, leading to the creation of sub-genres such as "Barista Fire". This focuses on saving enough money so that your investment income can cover most life expenses. You then top this up with part-time work.

For some Fire followers though, extreme frugality is still the main way to achieve retirement early, and a sacrifice they see as worth it in the long term.

As Minkley puts it: "The principles of Fire are simple, and they haven't changed - spend less than you earn, invest the difference, and give your money time to grow."

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[–] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 32 points 2 days ago (4 children)

They quit work after their savings hit £1m.

Say they both expect to live for another 35 years. Even if your investments from that million suffer no major losses, and even with modest part-time work, you're still cutting it real thin if you think you're going to stretch that money for a third of a century. You're not having kids and you're hoping there is no significant unexpected expense.

What's likely happening here is that (as with most of these stories) they are simply lying. There's passive income they aren't mentioning, or they inherited/were gifted their house, they work part-time on some lucrative "training and life-coaching business," etc.

[–] meatballs12345@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago

There was a Citation Needed a few years ago that said the same thing. These articles always fail to mention that they had parents pay off their house or something.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's really just not very informative without knowing the rest of their finances.

1 million in 10 years is definitely more than the average couple can hope to save up by living frugally.

What? Didn't you read the headline? They packed their lunches! Isn't your monthly lunch budget nearly 10 grand?

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

1,000£ saved per month due to packed lunches
7,333£ saved per month due to no avocado toast!

[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was waiting for the part where their parents paid for their house lmao

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Somehow in the editing process that part is always deleted by accident.

[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

Honestly articles like this are obscene. They dangle the possibility of financial security in front of the working class while championing just obscene ways to save pennies in order to keep people just wasting away their lives enriching the pedo ruling class. Holy shit capitalism is a curse on humanity and capitalists are just fucking demons

See I'm so poor that I definitely could live on 28k a year (i live on less) but yeah these people don't seem like they're living as cheaply as me lmao.

[–] deforestgump@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Weird. When I page search the terms "family" and "parents" nothing comes up!

[–] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

Ok so to save 1 million in 10 years you need like £6k a month assuming 4.5% annual returns thats more than my entire salary. For this to work at least one person needs an excess of £125k salary and the other enough to cover their costs which is top 1% earners in the country.

The fucking average household income in the UK is £37k with around £200 a month going into savings… hog and piss these people spend more on eating out for lunch than most people LIVE ON utter trollop Pret eating scumfucks. Who the fuck do they think they are putting their face on this shit? Fucking break all your bones on a skiing holiday you bellends

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Alan had worked as a landscape gardener before launching a training and life-coaching business, while Katie was an actuary, or risk assessor, for a financial firm.

I have a feeling this is more important than the boxed lunches.

Spend less than you earn, invest the diffidence, and give your money time to grow

Assuming you actually make enough to live in the first place. Investments aren't assured that's why people leave retirement or straight up die during recessions. Now that every retirement fund in the US will be forced to buy SpaceX as effectively nonvoting members just to prop up a failing Xai component because of our first trillionaire's ego we're gonna see those retirement funds losing their efficacy.

Yeah the only way to retire at all is too have a substantial nest egg or comprehensive social safety nets that will keep you alive. If you can achieve that when you're 35, great! But don't act like it's something available to everyone.

[–] DasRav@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Spend less than you earn, invest the diffidence, and give your money time to grow

The people who think this is helpful advice anyone needs are the most insufferable people on the planet. "Did you know that if you don't spend the money in your pocket, it will still be in your pocket tomorrow?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!1"

[–] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

All financial advice is just a variation of this bullshit. Compound interest, spend less than you earn, get a higher paying job, don't get trapped in debt and the most important of all, the underpinning of all financial advice is to just look them in the eye and giv'em a firm handshake.

young-sheldon

If that doesn't work, that's on you.

how-much-could-it-cost

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[–] duderium@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago

Weird, I go out to eat maybe five times a year and I have a few hundred dollars to my name. I have to stop spending tens of thousands of dollars every time I go to a restaurant 😔

[–] WilsonWilson@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

packed lunch:

foie gras

Beluga caviar

1973 Château Mouton Rothschild

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Struggling millionaire can't afford a warm meal 😞

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Wiping the tears away with hundred dollar bills as I type this from my California Mansion.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Remember kids, if you can’t afford a house it means you need to cut back on eating out. Also, you’re killing the restaurant industry by not eating out enough.

[–] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Millennials are killing the cunnilingus industry

[–] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why Is.

Almost, every sentence.

A new.

Paragraf.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It lets you space out more ads on your shitty website

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Almost every westerner who is successful with these FIRE schemes does so by becoming a landlord then using their profits to move to a country with a much lower cost of living, typically in Southeast Asia.

They're financing a crypto-colonist lifestyle by parasitizing the working class of both their country of origin and their destination country.

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

truly cultural heros

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

Leave everyone you know behind so you can be a drain on two societies.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We did fuck all but wear rags and sit in a cave counting our money, and boy howdy you should see the glorious sum of our alienated life.

EXTREME AUSTERITY WHERE NOBODY SPENDS ANYTHING, YUP, I CAN THINK OF NOTHING BETTER FOR AN ECONOMY

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, ok, so they can retire early because they will bilk other people out of money by getting them to sign up for their "how to retire early" courses. I guess that means they technically aren't retired, are they?

But it is so easy! All you need to do is:

-Save money on lunch every day

-Always be that one scab friend who never pays their share of anything

-Have dual six figure incomes and no children

-Charge your phone when you're out and about instead of using your home electricity

It's just that easy!

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

Charge your phone when you're out and about instead of using your home electricity

I'd be surprised if the this saves even 1£ a year

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The two rarely had takeaways and always took packed lunches to work. "We were £40,000 better off over 10 years from just that one lunch habit," says Alan.

Just shy of 9 quid for a bought work lunch seems kind of high in the country of the meal deal. Yeah don't eat takeaway / corporate slop bowl every lunch really is hard hitting financial advice I'm sure most people could follow

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A lunchtime meal deal in kkklanada is gonna run you 10-15 dollars easy.

[–] free_casc@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago
[–] Kurtismayfield@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

Why is a "Business reporter" for a major news network dumb enough to run an ad for this couple's lifestyle marketing company? That is the real question we need answered.

Or this "article" is just a paid ad.

Anything but admitting that capitalism is rotten.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I didn't read the article - I went right to google. I learned that the text is an effectively an ad for the couple's free 10-week online finance course: Rebel Finance School - Rebel Donegans.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Obviously being frugal is good, don't buy shit you don't have to for no reason. But were you really saving £4000/yr by having packed lunches? Or is that over some hypothetical version where they ate out every single lunch of the year?

Just looked up heating costs in the UK wondering how much that could be and holy shit, £150/mo during winter? That's like 4x what I pay for heating, and we're getting scammed by the utility. No wonder so many people freeze to death.

[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

Dated someone who was going to school on their grandparents dime and told me once they spent around $600 a month on food when I was averaging $200 and this was over a decade ago

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

when i got my first OK paying job, despite making 10K USD more than what i made prior, i had nothing to show for it after the first year. no additional savings, and my whole mental deal with the job was that i could start actually saving.

i couldn't really unpack where the extra had gone, but i did start doing those YNAB tools. this was like 2014, when that crap wasn't fully monetized and people shared spreadsheets.

after programming in all the things i couldn't change (income, rent, utilities, insurance) and making some reasonable allowances based in the past (fuel, auto repairs/maintenance) all that was left that i could control daily was food and entertainment.

while that did lead to a shift in my thinking about daily spending vs monthly savings, as you say, it is only applicable to people who legitimately make more than they need to socially reproduce their labor. which is a narrowing demographic.

being on the bad side of that break-even line is not about treat selection but about risk assessment: car repair or dentist. medication or fresh food. treatment or soothing.

but the kind of people being advertised to in these periodicals do not want to be confronted with the knowledge of what poverty does to people in it, because it reveals the flaws in a system that has rewarded them with a life of generally lower stakes decision making.

learning to be economical with food can be a bit of a game changer within certain guardrails and if someone can save for the home-scale infrastructure/equipment to take full advantage, but this genre of stories is always the same thing: don't buy meals or prepared drinks during the work day. and they act like it's some secret that dropping $30/day on starbucks milkshakes and an artisan burrito will add up to $900/month.

probably because, for very comfortable bozos, this is a shock.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

being on the bad side of that break-even line

makes me think of the "Kill Line" meme from Chinese social media

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's <10£ of savings per workday per person. Maybe a bit high but doesn't seem impossible. Not really sure how much food is in the UK.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My point was more that most people (at least in my neck of the woods) only eat out for lunch like twice a week tops. Though this could be a bubble thing, where everyone I work with just can't afford more lol. Also a packed lunch isn't free, so if it's 10£/day savings they'd really be spending closer to 15£ average per day over 10 years?

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah it's pretty arbitrary how you count your non spendings.

I'm saving billions with all the super yachts I'm not buying.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you suck my cock the way these two have, you too can become rich some day

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

Of course. I know it’ll be hard to barely suck it, unfortunate that your parents will almost suck it all

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

training and life coach business

Give me 100 dollars an hour and I'll teach you why I'm the one with money and you're not.